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Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Post by tsoukase »

hdgvhicv wrote: post #429
tsoukase wrote: post #381

From a semi-corrupt country, ie being somewhere between Africa and the developed world, I can only suggest to fellow USians courage and patience three more years. Times will come good again. A corrupt leader is very difficult to change and things seem grim because he has captured all three forms of power.

A civilised country can not be destroyed by one king, nor saved by a new leader. America has checks and balances, and they have failed. There’s no “wait 3 years”, that’s over, as America will always be one election away from anarchy or worse. The only way out is the Republican Party impeaching him and spending the next 10 years undoing the damage at the top and next 40 year rebuilding civil society.

Never in the past an irreversible decline of a hundred long empire has started in one year. Abrupt crisis end abruptly. Never any political party has impeached it's winning leader. Nowadays the country needs a Dem President, whoever they are. The new billionaires will have different priorities, again not friendly but more peaceful. You just have to wait, as we do in my country every now and then.

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Post by JumpinJack_Cash »

mrtksn wrote: post #62
arunabha wrote: post #18

@dang Why is this flagged and removed from the front page in seconds.

It Turkey a current popular meme is an old tweet that says “I'm so fed up with politics that I say, 'Let me just focus on this instead,' and whatever that is, they'll come and fuck that up too. You won't even be able to breathe”. That’s what you will get by not talking politics. US is on the fast track to be like Turkey. Some of those ICE agents will kill some AI engineer’s father or mother who has the wrong accents,…

> > That’s what you will get by not talking politics. US is on the fast track to be like Turkey.

On the contrary, if everybody is so focused on the National Politics contests as we've been ever since 2015 , it's only natural that the winner of that popularity contest becomes a demi God with unlimited powers (on top of what were already granted him by the very generous Constitution).

It's only logic, the more followed the contest, the more popular/emboldened will the winner of the contest be.

It's true for beauty paegents, boxing matches, movie and music prizes and yes even Presidential elections.

The answer is in local politics , attention there because that's where stuff has to be applied on the territory.

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

crote wrote: post #446
_DeadFred_ wrote: post #359

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If the Right does end up defending this, I don't see how they are compatible with the USA that I was taught to believe in my whole life.

Isn't it obvious? You were taught a lie. All the blathering about "freedom", "democracy", and "constitutional rights" is just propaganda you've been spoon-fed since you were a child. The USA has spent the last 80 years riding the wave of contributing to the victory in WWII and therefore being the "Good Guys", and most of the Western world happily played along as their political goals aligned with it. Meanwhile the US…

Nah. I was taught by the actions of neighbors. I was taught by my school becoming less segregated in California and becoming majority latino and no one caring. I was taught by my grandfather, what he did in his life, and how he lived.

I was 'taught' through experiencing something good becoming more good. Get out of here with your doomerism toxicity. You talk like the non-political Russians talk about their country. The USA is not irredeemable.

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Post by Tadpole9181 »

softwaredoug wrote: post #99

This is probably a good day to take time away from social media. Doom scrolling won’t do anything Instead there’s DHS funding going through Congress which could give Congress leverage to restrict ICE. To be clear ICE will still operate past the funding deadline. But Congress can create limits like mandating allowing states to investigate these crimes. Restrict who can carry firearms. Write your senators and ask them…

They passed the DHS funding. The day ICE executes a man in broad daylight by blowing his brains out from point-blank, they get an extra $10,000,000,000 in funding.

America is a failed nation.

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Post by Tadpole9181 »

jimt1234 wrote: post #79
password54321 wrote: post #25

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Just in case anyone thinks you are exaggerating: https://x.com/DHSgov/status/2006472108222853298

The federal government really has become nothing more than a bunch of social media influencers.

Nazis. The federal government has become nothing more than actual, honest-to-God Nazis.

The other day, the official DHS presser had them prominently displaying a direct Nazi slogan: "One of ours, All of yours".

This, of course, referenced how that day one of their ICE agents murdered an innocent US citizen.

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Post by shepherdjerred »

thiht wrote: post #434
rurp wrote: post #290

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That's the most clear murder I've ever seen, zero question about intent or anything else. After the four agents have thrown the guy to the ground and are pinning him down you can see the fed on the left pull out his gun and shoot the defenseless man in the back, and then the others jump back and join in. This is truly unreal. Even more unreal that we know nobody will get prosecuted for this murder and we'll see anoth…

But the MAGA cult will find yet another explanation that this man magically hurt the 4 ICE agents and they all ended up in a hospital somehow, or that carrying weapons with a permit is unacceptable if you vote democrat

> "Fearing for his life and the lives and safety of fellow officers, an agent fired defensive shots. Medics on scene immediately delivered medical aid to the subject but was pronounced dead at the scene," DHS said. "The suspect also had 2 magazines and no ID—this looks like a situation where an individual wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement."

https://www.foxnews.com/us/border-patrol-involved-shooting-r...

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Post by malfist »

eudamoniac wrote: post #332
malfist wrote: post #302

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I've yet to hear how someone with their hands restrained and forced on the ground managed to get their hands on their gun. Can you please educate me?

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I'm responding to your earlier post, claiming that the victim indeed did put his hands on his gun. I ask you again, provide that evidence that you claim to have seen in the video.

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Post by odshoifsdhfs »

zahlman wrote: post #247
duxup wrote: post #109

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ICE has regularly attacked protesters and bystanders who are simply recording, walking away and so on. Even people just driving through their neighborhood have been dragged out of their vehicles and apprehended. Citizen or otherwise doesn’t seem to matter. They aren’t professionals and operate with neither the training, nor the will to obey the law. Much of the time they seem to believe trying to bait folks into an e…

> ICE has regularly attacked protesters and bystanders who are simply recording, walking away and so on. > Even people just driving through their neighborhood have been dragged out of their vehicles and apprehended. Citizen or otherwise doesn’t seem to matter. I have seen many claims of this sort, but every single time there's been video available of the incident, it's become clear to me that nothing of the sort is g…

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Post by slg »

dang wrote: post #329
slg wrote: post #289

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You seem to be a little sidetracked from my original point so let me reiterate it, "It's coming for everything and you'll have to draw the line somewhere." I understand you can dismiss that with "There is always a feeling of this-time-is-different", but what happens when it's truly different? Have you set a line for yourself of when it will be different or are you the frog telling everyone else that the water's not t…

I don't see any sidetrack. That's the same argument, and I can only repeat the same counterargument. I'm not saying that your argument is wrong—I would have to know the future in order to say that, which I don't. All I can do is give the reasons why the counterargument holds more sway from an HN-admin point of view. (Which, btw, is not some sort of disagreement about the politics of this story or other stories.)

Well then, thanks for explaining why that the hyperbolic example in my first comment was in fact not hyperbolic.

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Post by dekhn »

zahlman wrote: post #271
jakelazaroff wrote: post #261

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Sure, the article is not the clearest, but the "violently resisted" quote is taken verbatim from the DHS tweet. Just visit the link I posted, this will take you two seconds to verify.

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OK, I'll do the work to follow up for you.

https://abc7ny.com/post/minneapolis-shooting-today-federal-a... attributes the quote to DHS

https://www.tpr.org/news/2026-01-24/man-shot-dead-by-federal... says it came from a DHS statement.

https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/live-updates/reported-shoo... -minneapolis-federal-agents-protesters/ is, I think, the article you say suggests O'Hara said this, but I believe it was originally incorrect and updated since then

https://x.com/Sec_Noem/status/2015202988923711951 is the tweet from the government using the direct wording

Also, to be obviously, the statement you attributed to O'Hara is inconsistent with what he would say given his role.

While I totally appreciate that you don't like people using emotional verbiage or making false conclusions biased by their own beliefs, the reality here is that basically no objective independent observer would say that the government's statements are true and accurate. And I also think that careful analysis of the videos by that same observer would conclude the agents made an egregious error in the heat of the moment. Constantly doubling down about how you're the rational one, when there is ample evidence otherwise simply weakens your own position and makes people less likely to bother reading what you have to say.

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