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Re: STFU

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Post by jomohke »

cortesoft wrote: post #451
mezyt wrote: post #394

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A half conversation is a lot more disruptive because your brain try to fill in the gap of information.

This comment chain is talking about people using speakerphone, though, meaning they hear both sides of the conversation

In theory yes, but in practice they usually have the speaker up far higher than they are speaking themselves so we do only hear one side clearly.

I think the high distractability is a trifecta of volume, non-naturallness of the sound (compression etc: feeling out of place in the space) and this point.

Re: STFU

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Post by cons0le »

fuzzer371 wrote: post #357
boogieknite wrote: post #237

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definitely not cultural now, imagine showing up to a hike and the person youre meeting whips one of these out and proceeds to blast rap music. its happened to me and it feels like Seinfeld but 2020s

It is absolutely a cultural thing.

Yeah, you're really not going to find many people blasting gustav mahler in the forest for example. It's always pop music.

Re: STFU

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Post by bobbylarrybobby »

tkel wrote: post #428
boarsofcanada wrote: post #109

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To this point, there have been at least a few stories of elderly people being beaten on San Francisco public transit for politely asking people to turn their music down.

OK, I read about someone being murdered by their spouse. That doesn't mean it is going to happen to me. The media reports on sensational stories. That doesn't make them normal.

You tend to know your spouse, you don't know the mental state of people on the train. Especially people who have already demonstrated they don't care about social norms or preserving tranquility in public spaces.

Re: STFU

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Post by sowbug »

sdenton4 wrote: post #414
stavros wrote: post #401

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Do you think having your conversation on speakerphone in public is the same as talking to someone?

People talking to each other in person tend to modulate their voices to match the context. People talking on speakerphone tend to crank the volume and shout.

And the person on the other end of the line often doesn't realize how uncivil the situation is. They might know they're on speakerphone, but they actually can't see that they're interrupting the trains of thought of dozens of people around them. This means the content of the conversation is more likely to be inappropriate for public consumption, making it even more distracting for the forced participants.

The person holding the speakerphone is to blame, of course, but they often seem to go into a state of pathological flow where they're almost as oblivious as their conversation partner.

Re: STFU

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Post by shermantanktop »

onethought wrote: post #458
stavros wrote: post #415

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Plus devices are tinny and grate. Watching a video on the phone of someone speaking is much more annoying than someone speaking in person, even at the same volume.

I think this is the only meaningful point being made in this thread. The sound from a phone speaker is annoying, more so, than a typical in person talking. To me the solution lies somewhere in fixing that to make it sound more natural. Everyone else claiming that some how having “loud” conversation is rude, feels like they’ve fallen into some anti-social hole… we are literally the only animal to have developed comple…

It’s all context. Some cultures are loud, some are quiet; some people are loud, some are quiet; some places are supposed to be loud, and so on.

The people being quiet in an normally-loud place create no problems. The people being loud in a normally-quiet place are causing problems for others by violating the quiet.

Loud people also tend to be oblivious to this and then get defensive when it’s pointed out. Not always - I’ve known some naturally-loud people who had figured out that being shushed meant they were in the wrong.

Re: STFU

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Post by shermantanktop »

cwillu wrote: post #420
yujzgzc wrote: post #241

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This is my reason for blasting music from my bicycle. Feels less rude than clicking a bell at the pedestrians and somewhat more effective at attracting attention.

It's great for announcing that an asshole is approaching.

“Heeeeere I come!!!” Boom psst boom psst waka waka

Re: STFU

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Post by milleramp »

I wish there was an app for the other annoyances of the 'Bombay' airport. Like the get your ass in line app, or I don't need you to carry my luggage 5ft and demand a tip app.

Re: STFU

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Post by dartharva »

ArnoVW wrote: post #355
pixl97 wrote: post #68

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You mean "As with anything in life it depends on a huge number of variables such as location, number of allies the other person has, the threat potential you represent, the number of allies you have, your standing on the social ladder, if you're in a position of power, your ability to understand social clues, the exact method how you ask, yada yada"

No. It delends on how you ask. Did you walk over? Did you say hi? Did you lower yourself to be around their height? Give them a second or two to get used to you? Tell them first that their noise is loud ? Ask them in a respectable tone if they would lower it, just a bit? Did you give the impression that you were asking, not demanding? Of course I won't ask a drunk or aggressive looking person. But there is a wrong wa…

> Did you walk over? Did you say hi? Did you lower yourself to be around their height? Give them a second or two to get used to you?

I personally detest the kind of people who behave like this. It all just exudes deliberate fakeness; if anyone were to try this on me I'll only be irritated more than anything else.

Re: STFU

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Post by lostlogin »

yujzgzc wrote: post #241
mlfreeman wrote: post #141

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In potentially-dangerous-animal country (e.g. grizzly bears, mountain lions, etc), it could be a safety mechanism...I was told repeatedly you need to make some kind of distinctive noise regularly so they won't get startled by you rounding a bend.

This is my reason for blasting music from my bicycle. Feels less rude than clicking a bell at the pedestrians and somewhat more effective at attracting attention.

Better still, a nice free hub. If you don’t pedal, it’s noisy, if you back pedal it sounds urgent.

As an upside, your better get good at hill climbing as freewheeling or backpedaling up hill takes some practice.

Re: STFU

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Post by dartharva »

_vqpz wrote: post #160

The idea that 12 lines of vibe coded JavaScript prompted because someone was too scared to talk to someone disturbing him (but not enough to take a creep shot and blast him on Twitter) could make it to the top post of this website is quite sad.

Did you forget what site you were on? This is Hacker News.
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