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Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

mikkupikku wrote: post #466
_DeadFred_ wrote: post #440

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It is not trolling when OUR OFFICIAL DELEGATION left Greenland's in tears. This is OFFICIAL POLICY, OFFICIAL DIPLOMACY and has nothing to do with MAGA, memes, jokes. If I asked you 2 months ago 'do you think Trump will steal tankers of Venezuelan oil using the US military, sell the oil, and deposit the funds in accounts setup offshore in the middle eastern country that gave him a free jumbo jet?' would you have said…

I'm not saying that it's trolling, I do think they genuinely want Greenland at least. I'm saying MAGA people, the portion of the voting public which actually support the administration, think it's trolling. The level of genuine support for it is virtually zero. That's the reason it hasn't already been done. I hope I'm not talking to a wall here, because I already clearly explained this above: "most magas I talk to tr…

I don't know what to tell someone who says ACTIVE, ONGOING, OFFICIAL NEGOTIATIONS that left the foreign country (who thought we were meme'ing until they met with our OFFICIALS) in tears, are just memes.

Meaning to or not you are running defense for it, as news coverage/sane people have done continuously for Trump with the 'it's just Trump being Trump'. Don't do that. Don't let them do that. This is the United State President sending an OFFICIAL delegation. It IS ALREADY OFFICIAL POLICY, we sent an OFFICIAL United States delegation that had official talks with Greenland's OFFICIALS. That is not just memes so I don't know how you accept people telling you it is. That is OFFICIAL UNITED STATES POLICY. Again, OFFICIAL DELEGATIONS meeting with FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS ARE NOT MEMEs. That half the country says they are means zero. It is in part how they empower Trump to get away with what they want.

That you accept 'official US policy that American diplomats are actively engaged in, right now, is just memes' is wild to me.

Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Post by SoftTalker »

kps wrote: post #375
sebastiennight wrote: post #160

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If the average car on the road is 10.5 years old, and you assume a flat demand, it is consistent with the lifespan of all cars being exactly 21 years. (if you look at a random sampling of 100 cars, 5 will be from this year, 5 from 2025, and so on until you've counted the 5 cars from 2005 ; the average age will be 10.5 years) If you assume that there are more cars sold every year (due to demographics: way more humans…

It's poorly worded, but the rest of the article implies that's average lifespan , not average age . “The average car lifespan now is closer to 322,000 kilometres, which works out to around 10 to 12 years for most drivers.” “While the average vehicle in Canada may be designed to last around a decade, there are several factors, some of which are within your control and some of which are not, that can impact how long yo…

Assuming Canada uses salt in the winter in the same amounts as the Northern US, rust will eat the car before the mechanicals wear out.

My last two cars succumbed to rust at a little over 20 years of age yet were still reliable, started easily and ran well.

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Post by [deleted] »

mullingitover wrote: post #201
rootusrootus wrote: post #166

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Could you explain some specific ways in which they are ahead?

In the case of the Xiaomi SU7[1]: you name it. Pretty much every conceivable way. Performance, comfort, electronics, styling, build quality. Xiaomi is on par with Apple for electronics and they actually followed through on making the car Apple wishes they made. Sells for around 40k, so on par with a Model 3, but absolutely embarrasses anything Tesla makes. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdSusCDZcDg

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Post by blargey »

Herring wrote: post #446
throw0101d wrote: post #156

A Canadian satire site has the headline "Canada chooses lawful evil over chaotic evil": * https://thebeaverton.com/2026/01/canada-chooses-lawful-evil-... * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alignment_(Dungeons_%26_Dragon... Edit: A comment in /r/canada: > TBF I would much rather work for Lex Luthor than The Joker if I had to choose one.

China hasn't dropped bombs on foreign soil in over 40 years. The US killed a million Iraqis not that long ago. I think this "China evil" framing is a smear, like how Republican conspiracy theories used to say Democrats are pedophiles. Guess where the real pedophiles were hanging out the whole time.

And the only thing that stopped in Xinjiang is the news coverage and press access.

I find it deeply ironic that for some, the vibes have shifted towards "hey maybe the CCP isn't all that bad" just because...what, the solar buildouts make them look more competent and long-sighted compared to your local upstart authoritarian party? Such is the nature of vibes, I suppose.

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Post by [deleted] »

epolanski wrote: post #416
pstuart wrote: post #312

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The trade balance as a number shouldn't matter, but offshoring critical manufacturing capability and production ecosystems does. China has at least 2 key advantages in manufacturing -- cheaper labor and laxer regulations. If the US were to embrace and extend robotics and automation more vigorously that first point could become moot. Also the second point as far as labor regulations go, and if environmental regulation…

1. The US industrial output has been growing for decades[1]. US manufacturing is doing very well, it's US manufacturing jobs that aren't due to automation. 2. Manufacturing as % of the population has long been declining globally including China. Labor cost is a very minor expense in modern manufacturing unless we talking something like clothing. I don't think Americans miss the millions of jobs they had 60 years ago…

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Post by maxglute »

threethirtytwo wrote: post #131

Are BYD cars really subsidized or is that a bunch of BS?

PRC just underpricing competitors is frankly retarded cope at this point, the reality is PRC industrial policy also simply permanently drives structural costs down. They're not spending billions in pork barrel jobs program that need reoccurring injections that rarely prioritize manufacturing efficiency. Pretty much every industry where PRC took the value-engineer hammer (initially with subsidies) has stayed cheap (eventually without subsidies). Like it's been 20 years, PRC competitiveness hallowed out a lot of western industrial base already, but their goods remains cheap. They're not subsidizing in perpetuity, their manufacturing is just stupid efficient and producers are willing to live on less margins because before even competing with western incumbents, they're competing with other Chinese competitors foremost and it just so happens survivors of PRC involution is by process of elimination, the most competitive.

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Post by nomel »

gpm wrote: post #293
endyai wrote: post #272

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25% of all EV sales though

49,000 is less than 20% of 264,277... Besides which Canadian manufacturers have been extremely reluctant to make EVs, so I really don't see that there's a domestic "EV market" we should be protecting.

"Zero emission" has included PHEV [1] like the 20 mile electric range Jeep Wrangler, that gets 20MPG when running on fuel.

That 264,277 is not all BEV.

[1] https://tc.canada.ca/en/road-transportation/innovative-techn...

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Post by bluGill »

ponector wrote: post #458
bluGill wrote: post #107

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Massive trucks are useful for construction. You should get better transit so less people have cars.

How truck is more useful than a van like ford transit?

That is a false question. They both have their place. Depending on what you are doing sometimes a van is better, sometimes a truck is better. I wouldn't want some chemicals in the van with me, but the ability to have everything inside the van that walk in also has advantages.

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Post by dh2022 »

palmotea wrote: post #429
dh2022 wrote: post #314

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I got news for you: ICE is designed now to beat up anyone in the US. Here is one example: https://newrepublic.com/post/205280/fed-agent-permanently-bl...

> I got news for you: ICE is designed now to beat up anyone in the US. Here is one example: https://newrepublic.com/post/205280/fed-agent-permanently-bl... Do you know what the word "designed" means? Because I don't think it means what you think it means. I am in no way saying what that ICE agent did was right. I'm just saying being mad is not an excuse for being a sloppy thinker. What's happening here is the ICE age…

Designed means exactly that I meant: today ICE is designed (meant to) beat up anyone in the US. When ICE agents kill people, they get immunity from the feds (that guy who shot Renee Good will not see a day in prison).

If my comment led you to a conclusion that I support "Defund ICE" you would be correct.

All of this to show you that my understanding of the work designed is correct.

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