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Re: The Post-American Internet

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>does not feel like they can push us around as much as the Americans will tolerate Good luck with that, I don't think it will ever happen. You'd need to first stop being dependent on for Energy.

Americans repeating Kremlin talking points is just odd and sad. Russian energy in Europe is being phased out by 2027. Not only will it "ever happen", it's imminent.

!remind me in 2 years :)

Re: The Post-American Internet

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Ok. But if "Western-style billionaires" provide peace and prosperity, don't leave us hanging on what's causing all the misery and poverty!

Poverty is the default state of humanity. Also, a lot of misery comes from people having misguided worldviews, getting slowly radicalized by untrue assumptions.

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I'd say media and advertising are the most likely. I'm pretty happy with the products I buy, I get good value. No complaints on the billionaires from me

What if, hypothetically, in order to fix or otherwise rid ourselves of the media and advertising we had to accept the disappearance of the billionaires? Would it be worth it?

Who radicalized you? Was it the media ran by the billionaires, or some other third thing?

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Why not taking two seconds to look it up before making such a false statement? From Wikipedia: > Citizens of Greenland are full citizens of Denmark and of the European Union. Greenland is one of the Overseas Countries and Territories of the European Union and is part of the Council of Europe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland

It's always disappointing to see that level of aggressive ignorance on HN. I flagged your comment because you're lying and spreading misinformation. Greenland is associated to the European Union but is is not and never has been part of the European Union; it was previously part of the predecessor organization the European Communities but withdrew before the EU was founded. Next time take two seconds to look it up.

I never said it was a full part of the EU, I even posted the quote from Wikipedia that specifies the situation. But saying that Greenland is not part of EU is also wrong. Even though it might not be a regular member state, it is a territory of Denmark, which is certainly part of the EU.

Re: The Post-American Internet

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I've spent a couple of decades in the Danish public sector of digitalisation and in the private sector for global green energy. 10 years ago people would've laughed if you talked about leaving Microsoft and iOS in enterprise. Now we all have contingency plans for just that, and a lot of organisations are already actually doing it. So I would argue that there is more of a crack, but I'm not sure the post-american inte…

The idea that EU surveillance is greater than US surveillance is almost certainly mistaken. In fact, a huge reason that the EU is looking to move away from U.S. commercial providers is that they can’t guarantee they won’t be giving the U.S. govt information about EU users even if they setup completely independent EU based entities. The reason why it might appear that the EU is more heavy handed is because the EU is a…

The reason is money and control. That's it. Believing otherwise is foolish. They don't really give a shit about privacy or whatever is the supposed agenda of the day. It's about not paying as much to the US and being able to control the infrastruscture.

I trust EU govs less than I trust US companies. At least I know that for the companies it's just about making more money and there isn't that many downsides for me outside of having to pay one way or another. EU govs are fundamentally destructive, so whatever they end up doing you can be sure it will terrible for everyone but themselves.

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> Western-style billionaires do the former, as their wealth is created by providing services to people I'm sorry but this is just not based on reality. Wealth has always been formed by taking away from those who produce value. No one asked for 1000 new phone models every year, no one asked for 1000 new car models every year, no one asked for a million new kind of clothes every year. Services aren't provided, they are…

> No one asked for 1000 new phone models every year, no one asked for 1000 new car models every year, no one asked for a million new kind of clothes every year. I'm pretty sure that, except a few off-the-grid hermits, everyone, including the fancy communists at an indie café, is constantly asking for a million new kind of clothes. Denying this reality (and other unpleasant ones?) is perhaps what leads you to untrue c…

Do you have some data on that ? Because the majority of people inside far-left organizations are just not, and I don't base that on superficial myths but on actually talking with people

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I'm sorry but this is just too naive. There is no honesty in most people working for a wage that is barely enough to survive, while capital owners don't actually do anything and still receive an inconsiderate amount of money. There is no trading here, just a good old theft of all the produced value with just enough redistribution to buy back the stolen value. No billionaire ever became billionaire by trading anything…

What are we doing here? Are you going around calling people naive for not believing in Marxian economics? None of what you describe applies broadly to today's diverse forms of wealths. Your Germinal view of capitalism is not a groundbreaking discovery, if I may.

You'll have to explain how diverse forms of wealth are formed then, rooted in a scientific analysis of the thing

Re: The Post-American Internet

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Erik, yes. This too: https://archive.ph/AcISR https://youtu.be/qloY_aU7mpA https://youtu.be/GSm99HFnvpY?t=7m17s

TIL there could be over a billion 川粉. « N'interrompez jamais un ennemi qui est en train de faire une erreur » —N I Poor Viktor! He should've just said no... https://images.prom.ua/4754852957_w640_h640_net-prikolnyj.jp... (even Ivan the Terrible https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7eIIIPBNUc&t=1735s doesn't drink without something to eat; he's not an alcoholic after all) Dina's a bit boho; where are the oranges and sushk…

Satyendra? Bose?

Greenland (feint? The Man practising your fencing chengyu?) seems like an attempt to get discount on "something something China/Russia deals"? Reverse Bribery?

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