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UK House of Lords attempting to ban use of VPNs by anyone under 16

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Re: UK House of Lords attempting to ban use of VPNs by anyone under 16

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Post by bawolff »

qcnguy wrote: post #393
bawolff wrote: post #154

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How many were for politcal speech as opposed to say threatening to murder someone?

Huge numbers are for political speech. It's not just prosecutions. Child protection is abused to force far left wing beliefs on the population. A former Marine was charged with inciting racial hatred after describing some migrants as “scumbags” and “psychopaths” in a 12-minute video posted on Facebook following the murders of three children in Southport, which sparked riots around the country. He was then banned from…

> He was then banned from coaching his own daughter's football club. A jury cleared him in 17 minutes, but Wales is run by the left so they kept the coaching ban in place because they believe right wing people are a threat to children.

Who is the "they" in this? The football club? If the situation is essentially that he called certain groups scumbags, but the footbal club has members of that group, its not surprising he would be banned.

Being rude gets you banned from things. I don't see a problem with that. He wasn't thrown in jail, he said something that offended some people and as a result they decided they didn't like him anymore. Freedom of association is also freedom to chose not to associate with people you don't like.

> In another case a teacher was banned from working with children after telling a Muslim child that "Britain is still a Christian state"

I mean, that sounds like a dick thing to say to a child or to anyone. And not particularly true (yes there are some vestiges with the church of england, but you are allowed to be any religion in england)

Was that person prosecuted or just fired?

> The German Chancellor has personally prosecuted thousands of speech cases against people who insulted him.

I highly doubt it.

Re: UK House of Lords attempting to ban use of VPNs by anyone under 16

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Post by bawolff »

reliabilityguy wrote: post #167
bawolff wrote: post #154

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How many were for politcal speech as opposed to say threatening to murder someone?

I would say even one is too many. The law was written in such a way intentionally to suppress speech. People who wrote it ain’t stupid.

> I would say even one is too many.

Well, is the number > 0?

Re: UK House of Lords attempting to ban use of VPNs by anyone under 16

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Post by zozzle »

Defletter wrote: post #470
zozzle wrote: post #469

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All that link shows is you have a long-running habit of disparaging outspoken feminists.

It's shows that JKR, a billionaire, has an army of sleeper accounts willing to jump at any mention of her nakedly virulent transphobia. Second-wave feminists would deplore her bio-essentialism. She is an anti-feminist.

Second-wave feminists like Germaine Greer, Janice Raymond and Sheila Jeffreys?

Re: UK House of Lords attempting to ban use of VPNs by anyone under 16

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Post by Defletter »

zozzle wrote: post #473
Defletter wrote: post #470

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's shows that JKR, a billionaire, has an army of sleeper accounts willing to jump at any mention of her nakedly virulent transphobia. Second-wave feminists would deplore her bio-essentialism. She is an anti-feminist.

Second-wave feminists like Germaine Greer, Janice Raymond and Sheila Jeffreys?

Have you never encountered a generalisation in your entire life?

EDIT: Fun tidbits:

- Sheila Jeffreys thinks that "any woman who takes part in a heterosexual couple helps to shore up male supremacy by making its foundations stronger".

- Janice Raymond thinks that "all transsexuals rape women's bodies by reducing the real female form to an artifact, appropriating this body for themselves".

- Germaine Greer published a book of some 200 pictures of young boys "to advance women's reclamation of their capacity for and right to visual pleasure".

Truly the height of second-wave feminism right here.

Re: UK House of Lords attempting to ban use of VPNs by anyone under 16

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Post by majorchord »

immibis wrote: post #436
drnick1 wrote: post #144

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Very true, just see what happened to the Graphene project recently. They were approached by the French government for a backdoor, threatened when they refused, and left the country in fear.

That is not what happened to the Graphene project recently. Basically, there have been a string of anonymous secure phones designed and marketed directly to high-ups in organised crime. Encrochat, Sky ECC, Anom, Phantom Secure, probably more. Their plausible deniability is thin - an undercover government agent goes to the creators and basically says "I'd like to buy 30 of these for my drug-dealing empire" and the cre…

By this same logic, would Proton also be acting suspicious if they exited Switzerland?

Re: UK House of Lords attempting to ban use of VPNs by anyone under 16

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Post by zozzle »

Defletter wrote: post #474
zozzle wrote: post #473

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Second-wave feminists like Germaine Greer, Janice Raymond and Sheila Jeffreys?

Have you never encountered a generalisation in your entire life? EDIT: Fun tidbits: - Sheila Jeffreys thinks that "any woman who takes part in a heterosexual couple helps to shore up male supremacy by making its foundations stronger". - Janice Raymond thinks that "all transsexuals rape women's bodies by reducing the real female form to an artifact, appropriating this body for themselves". - Germaine Greer published a…

Point is that second-wave feminism, and radical feminism in particular, centred on recognising sex as the basis of women's oppression under patriarchy. This led to advocacy for women-only spaces to protect against male violence and predation. Which is what JKR's position is: a continuation of second-wave radical feminism.

Re: UK House of Lords attempting to ban use of VPNs by anyone under 16

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Post by Defletter »

zozzle wrote: post #476
Defletter wrote: post #474

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you never encountered a generalisation in your entire life? EDIT: Fun tidbits: - Sheila Jeffreys thinks that "any woman who takes part in a heterosexual couple helps to shore up male supremacy by making its foundations stronger". - Janice Raymond thinks that "all transsexuals rape women's bodies by reducing the real female form to an artifact, appropriating this body for themselves". - Germaine Greer published a…

Point is that second-wave feminism, and radical feminism in particular, centred on recognising sex as the basis of women's oppression under patriarchy. This led to advocacy for women-only spaces to protect against male violence and predation. Which is what JKR's position is: a continuation of second-wave radical feminism.

Partially correct but you are conflating the movement fighting for biological rights (eg: reproductive rights) as it being bio-essentialist. And there certainly was infighting about trans people within second-wave feminism (eg: feminist sex wars), but then there's also intersex people. Second-wave feminists more generally did not have the kind of one-drop rule towards womanhood as you do, where someone could have lived their entire life as a woman, be perceived as a woman, experienced misogyny as a woman, experience patriarchy as a woman, suffered domestic abuse as a woman, have breasts and a vulva, etc, but once some test determines them to be intersex, you disqualify them from womanhood entirely and cast them as male. Second-wave feminists would not have done this. In fact, I believe even Greer deplored surgeries being performed on infants to make them comply with society's perception of the binary.

Re: UK House of Lords attempting to ban use of VPNs by anyone under 16

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Post by [deleted] »

Defletter wrote: post #477
zozzle wrote: post #476

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Point is that second-wave feminism, and radical feminism in particular, centred on recognising sex as the basis of women's oppression under patriarchy. This led to advocacy for women-only spaces to protect against male violence and predation. Which is what JKR's position is: a continuation of second-wave radical feminism.

Partially correct but you are conflating the movement fighting for biological rights (eg: reproductive rights) as it being bio-essentialist. And there certainly was infighting about trans people within second-wave feminism (eg: feminist sex wars), but then there's also intersex people. Second-wave feminists more generally did not have the kind of one-drop rule towards womanhood as you do, where someone could have liv…

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Re: UK House of Lords attempting to ban use of VPNs by anyone under 16

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Post by [deleted] »

Defletter wrote: post #477
zozzle wrote: post #476

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Point is that second-wave feminism, and radical feminism in particular, centred on recognising sex as the basis of women's oppression under patriarchy. This led to advocacy for women-only spaces to protect against male violence and predation. Which is what JKR's position is: a continuation of second-wave radical feminism.

Partially correct but you are conflating the movement fighting for biological rights (eg: reproductive rights) as it being bio-essentialist. And there certainly was infighting about trans people within second-wave feminism (eg: feminist sex wars), but then there's also intersex people. Second-wave feminists more generally did not have the kind of one-drop rule towards womanhood as you do, where someone could have liv…

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Re: UK House of Lords attempting to ban use of VPNs by anyone under 16

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Post by [deleted] »

Defletter wrote: post #477
zozzle wrote: post #476

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Point is that second-wave feminism, and radical feminism in particular, centred on recognising sex as the basis of women's oppression under patriarchy. This led to advocacy for women-only spaces to protect against male violence and predation. Which is what JKR's position is: a continuation of second-wave radical feminism.

Partially correct but you are conflating the movement fighting for biological rights (eg: reproductive rights) as it being bio-essentialist. And there certainly was infighting about trans people within second-wave feminism (eg: feminist sex wars), but then there's also intersex people. Second-wave feminists more generally did not have the kind of one-drop rule towards womanhood as you do, where someone could have liv…

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