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Post by JumpCrisscross »

emp17344 wrote: post #289
materielle wrote: post #159

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I think investors would certainly love this. So why hasn’t it already happened? My guess: they would lose a ton of cultural cachet. Turning OpenAI into an ads business is basically admitting that AGI isn’t coming down the pipeline anytime soon. Yes, I know people will make some cost-based argument that ads + agi is perfectly logical. But that’s not how people will perceive things, and OpenAI knows this. And I think t…

Yup, it’s essentially an admission of failure. I think the people who were expecting AI to improve exponentially are disappointed by its current state, where it’s basically just a useful tool to assist workers in some highly specific fields.

> it’s essentially an admission of failure

A multibillion dollar failure is fine by investors. Altman hasn’t been peddling the AGI BS to them. That’s aimed at the public and policymakers.

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Post by LastTrain »

senordevnyc wrote: post #430
LastTrain wrote: post #156

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I just got back from Thanksgiving holiday with my family. Grade schools kids all the way up to great grandparents up to 81 years old. Engineers, active military, a nurse, high schoolers, two in college. Both coasts represented and Texas. Republicans, Democrats, and in-between. The one and only thing every single person had in common was an utter hatred of AI. And it wasn’t for a lack of understanding of how it will b…

How do you reconcile this with: 1. The absolute explosion of AI usage (revealed preferences) 2. The polling on AI, which is mixed and reveals lots of pessimism and fear among a slight majority of Americans, but hardly universal “utter hatred”. My guess is some combo of: your family is not representative, the hatred was not as universal as it appeared (bandwagon effect), or your own hatred of AI caused you to focus on…

I don’t reconcile it, I was giving an anecdote, one that would seem to easily fit in with your personal summary of some poll you read about.

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Post by afavour »

wiz21c wrote: post #340
afavour wrote: post #131

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> most normal people don't know what Claude or Gemini are In think the point is that they don’t need to know what Gemini is, they just need to know Google, which they most definitely do. IMO ads rollout won’t be as simple as you’re describing it. A lot of people have switched from Google search to AI specifically because it isn’t filled with SEO, ad filled nonsense. So they’ll need to tread very, very carefully to in…

> So they’ll need to tread very, very carefully to introduce it without alienating customers. every single platform since the 1990's has introduced ads. My kids find it totally normal to have them. Believe me, if you train (!) people to accept ads, they will soon think it's normal. And besides, if ChatGPT goes with ads, Google will follow directly. So the users won't have the choice anymore. But ok, if I have to pay…

> if ChatGPT goes with ads, Google will follow directly

Eventually. But Google has an absolute ton of places to put ads today and are profitable enough that they can subsidise their AI operation much longer than OpenAI can. If it’s a competitive advantage to remain ad-less they have the ability to do it.

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Post by kgwgk »

aurareturn wrote: post #436
landedgentry wrote: post #321

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Youtube premium is not claiming AGI to justify a certain valuation.

I don’t think OpenAI has claimed they have AGI?

Maybe not having it but being really close to that and knowing how to build it. "We are now confident we know how to build AGI as we have traditionally understood it. We believe that, in 2025, we may see the first AI agents “join the workforce” and materially change the output of companies."

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Post by siva7 »

afavour wrote: post #473
wiz21c wrote: post #340

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> So they’ll need to tread very, very carefully to introduce it without alienating customers. every single platform since the 1990's has introduced ads. My kids find it totally normal to have them. Believe me, if you train (!) people to accept ads, they will soon think it's normal. And besides, if ChatGPT goes with ads, Google will follow directly. So the users won't have the choice anymore. But ok, if I have to pay…

> if ChatGPT goes with ads, Google will follow directly Eventually. But Google has an absolute ton of places to put ads today and are profitable enough that they can subsidise their AI operation much longer than OpenAI can. If it’s a competitive advantage to remain ad-less they have the ability to do it.

remaining ad-less isn't a competitive advantage for google.. advertisers want the use the best medium available to reach customers and clearly ai chatbots are better suited for that than the old web of google search. openai has reached the critical user base where they could easily replace google for advertisers.

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Post by bpt3 »

siva7 wrote: post #476
afavour wrote: post #473

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> if ChatGPT goes with ads, Google will follow directly Eventually. But Google has an absolute ton of places to put ads today and are profitable enough that they can subsidise their AI operation much longer than OpenAI can. If it’s a competitive advantage to remain ad-less they have the ability to do it.

remaining ad-less isn't a competitive advantage for google.. advertisers want the use the best medium available to reach customers and clearly ai chatbots are better suited for that than the old web of google search. openai has reached the critical user base where they could easily replace google for advertisers.

> clearly ai chatbots are better suited for that than the old web of google search

Why is this clearly the case?

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Post by downsplat »

aranelsurion wrote: post #279
adam_patarino wrote: post #128

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Since each chat is virtually independent there’s no switching cost. I’ve moved between Claude and ChatGPT with no cares. It’s not like Facebook where all my friends stay behind

> Since each chat is virtually independent That hasn't been true for a while though. Open a new chat tab in ChatGPT and ask it "What do you know about me" to see it in action.

You can turn that off. If you're using LLMs for technical or real world questions, it's nicer for each chat to be a blank slate.

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Post by dieortin »

frankohn wrote: post #409
rsanek wrote: post #385

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>a casual user can't use [Gemini] unless they: 1. have a Google account, and 2. are logged in. Is this a regional thing? I can use Google AI Mode without being logged in just fine. AI summaries for certain queries are also auto-generated when logged out for me.

Well, I am not sure about that but to me the real thing is: https://gemini.google.com and for this you need to be logged in, at least in my country. As for AI mode from google search I am not sure but I don't seem to have it, at least in my country, switzerland.

AI mode is available in Switzerland: https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/16011537#:~:text...
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