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Re: Nano Banana Pro

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Post by windexh8er »

harles wrote: post #438
everdev wrote: post #434

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe the team should push hard before releasing the product instead of after to make it work.

That’s a pretty uncharitable take. Given the scale of their recent launches and amount of compute to make them work, it seems incredibly smooth. Edge cases always arise, and all the company/teams can really do is be responsive - which is exactly why I see happening.

We're talking about Google right? You think they need a level of charity for a launch? I've read it all at this point.

Re: Nano Banana Pro

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Post by bayarearefugee »

asah wrote: post #463
everdev wrote: post #434

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe the team should push hard before releasing the product instead of after to make it work.

But then we'd complain about Google being a slow moving dinosaur. "Move fast and break things" cuts both ways ! (ex-Google tech lead, who took down the Google.com homepage... twice!)

Its not a new problem though, and its not just billing. The UI across Gemini just generally sucks (across AI Studio and the chat interfaces) and there's lots of annoying failure cases where Gemini will just timeout and stop working entirely midrequest.

Been like this for quite a while, well before Gemini 3.

So far I continue to put up with it because I find the model to be the best commercial option for my usage, but its amazing how bad modern Google is at just basic web app UX and infrastructure when they were the gold standard for such for like, arguably decades prior.

Re: Nano Banana Pro

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Post by xenospn »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #362
dangoodmanUT wrote: post #45

I've had nano banana pro for a few weeks now, and it's the most impressive AI model I've ever seen The inline verification of images following the prompt is awesome, and you can do some _amazing_ stuff with it. It's probably not as fun anymore though (in the early access program, it doesn't have censoring!)

Genuinely believe that images are 99.5% solved now and unless you’re extremely keen eyed, you won’t be able to tell AI images from real images now

Eyebrows, eyelashes and skin texture are still a dead giveaway for AI generated portraits. Much harder to tell the difference with everything else.

Re: Nano Banana Pro

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Post by rishabhaiover »

recursive wrote: post #459
harles wrote: post #438

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s a pretty uncharitable take. Given the scale of their recent launches and amount of compute to make them work, it seems incredibly smooth. Edge cases always arise, and all the company/teams can really do is be responsive - which is exactly why I see happening.

Why should the scale of their recent launches be a given? Who is requiring this release schedule?

the market

Re: Nano Banana Pro

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Post by brk »

SamBam wrote: post #468
vunderba wrote: post #327

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If it's just the API you're interested in, Fal.ai has put Nano-Banana-Pro up for both generative and editing. A great deal less annoying to sign up for them since they're a pretty generalized provider of lots of AI related models. https://fal.ai/models/fal-ai/nano-banana-pro

Is there a model on Fal.ai that would make it easy to sharpen blurry video footage? I have found some websites, but apparently they are mostly scammy.

FYI that is an extremely challenging thing to do right. Especially if you care about accuracy and evidentiary detail. Not sure this is something that the current crop of AI tools are really tuned to do properly.

Re: Nano Banana Pro

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Post by herval »

ceroxylon wrote: post #306

Google has been stomping around like Godzilla this week, and this is the first time I decided to link my card to their AI studio. I had seen people saying that they gave up and went to another platform because it was "impossible to pay". I thought this was strange, but after trying to get a working API key for the past half hour, I see what they mean. Everything is set up, I see a message that says "You're using Paid…

Google APIs in general are hilariously hard to adopt. With any other service on the planet, you go to a platform page, grab an api key and you’re good to go.

Want to use Google’s gmail, maps, calendar or gemini api? Create a cloud account, create an app, enable the gmail service, create an oauth app, download a json file. Cmon now…

Re: Nano Banana Pro

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Post by vessenes »

logankilpatrick wrote: post #419
ceroxylon wrote: post #306

Google has been stomping around like Godzilla this week, and this is the first time I decided to link my card to their AI studio. I had seen people saying that they gave up and went to another platform because it was "impossible to pay". I thought this was strange, but after trying to get a working API key for the past half hour, I see what they mean. Everything is set up, I see a message that says "You're using Paid…

First off, apologies for the bad first impression, the team is pushing super hard to make sure it is easy to access these models. - On permission issue, not sure I follow the flow that got you there, pls email me more details if you are able too and happy to debug: Lkilpatrick@google.com - On overall friction for billing: we are working on a new billing experience built right into AI Studio that will make it super ea…

Oh man, there is so, so much pain here. Random example - if GOOGLE_GENAI_USE_VERTEXAI=true in your environment, woe betide you if you're trying to use gemini cli with an API key. Error messages don't match up with actual problems, you'll be told to log in using the cli auth for google, then you'll be told your API keys have no access.. It's just a huge mess. I still don't really know if I'm using a vertex API key or a non-vertex one, and I don't want to touch anything since I somehow got things running..

Anyway vai com dios, I know that there's a fundamental level of complexity deploying at google, and deploying globally, but it's just really hard compared to some competitors. Sadly, because the gemini series is excellent!

Re: Nano Banana Pro

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Post by simonw »

TylerE wrote: post #456
degamad wrote: post #409

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, I don't think they are. If you are facing a wall-plate with two power sockets on it side by side and you are telling someone to plug something in, which one would be "the right socket", and which would be "the left socket"? If above the wall-plate is a photo of a person and you are someone to draw a tattoo on the photo, which is "the right arm" and which is "the left arm"? Same wording, different expectation.

Power plugs are not people. ETA: and if I were telling someone which socket to plug something into, it would absolutely be from the prospective of the person doing the plugging, not from inside the wall.

Neither are sculptures of skulls made of pancake batter.

Re: Nano Banana Pro

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Post by mattchew »

logankilpatrick wrote: post #419
ceroxylon wrote: post #306

Google has been stomping around like Godzilla this week, and this is the first time I decided to link my card to their AI studio. I had seen people saying that they gave up and went to another platform because it was "impossible to pay". I thought this was strange, but after trying to get a working API key for the past half hour, I see what they mean. Everything is set up, I see a message that says "You're using Paid…

First off, apologies for the bad first impression, the team is pushing super hard to make sure it is easy to access these models. - On permission issue, not sure I follow the flow that got you there, pls email me more details if you are able too and happy to debug: Lkilpatrick@google.com - On overall friction for billing: we are working on a new billing experience built right into AI Studio that will make it super ea…

I had pretty much written off ever my credit card to Google, but a better billing experience and hard billing caps might change that.
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