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Re: Affinity Studio now free

#471
Arf, and me who was hitting that "update later button", now I wish I had updated to the latest version before the removal from the store.

That said, I'll try this when it will become necessary. Affinity tools were great. I downloaded the new Canva version, and although I'm not a fan of the new icons and general look and feel it seems okay. It feels a bit less responsive than the v2, that might be fixed with some "bug fixes & small improvements" releases. I might be just jaded and resigned.

Edit: Actually it is still possible to update.

Re: Affinity Studio now free

#472
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> Perhaps it gets worse over time. It quite literally always always does.

Yeah, 100% sure it will get worse, especially after the AI bubble pops.

the ai bubble has already popped!!! the biggest tech companies on the planet who are spending insane amounts of capex on “ai” keep reporting insane earnings reports one after another, things are popping left & right

Re: Affinity Studio now free

#473
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I’d prefer to have them release a new version every X years and let me buy that for a fixed cost. (This is how Adobe used to work)

You can't have your cake (one time payments) and eat it too (software gets perpetual updates). Perpetual licenses with 1 year of updates is a good middle ground, but they have said that the v2 suite will get maintenance updates for some period of time so even that type of license would not have changed this conversation.

Except that you can, because every software company did this for decades… Want to upgrade to a new version of our product? That’s another one time fee for that version.

If you squint, this looks a lot like a subscription model, but with extra steps. Why it’s different is because those extra steps actually matter.

They matter to the people who aren’t subjected to subscription dark-patterns to keep them from unsubscribing for just a little bit longer. They matter to the product, development, and sales teams who know they actually have to produce and deliver something meaningful if they want repeat customers. The matter to the accounting teams on all sides of the transaction, in particular because subscription revenue or expenses can always be counted as “recurring” and this has implications on cash flow which itself can impact many things.

The pitch has always been “we grow with you, this is a win-win”, implying that perpetual license fees are actually good for you to pay. Ostensibly because keeping your supplier in business keeps you in business, but in reality it was totally possible for a software supplier to go out of business and for their customers to continue operating without issue for 5, 10, even 15+ years, before even considering finding a replacement software.

And despite the pitch seeming so sweet, the literature on why you want your software business to operate on a subscription model was always about gaining an advantage over your customers, however marginal it may be, and now the data has borne out that the advantage is stark.

Re: Affinity Studio now free

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I think there are a lot of people like me who use it occasionally and won't bother with AI nor a subscription. To me this is a bad sign, as free is unsustainable. It's only a matter of time before they look at their metrics and realize "oh look, we have all these casual users who only use the free stuff, that's a new source of revenue!" at which point either the subscription now covers the app, or worse, they steal y…

> free is unsustainable Canva makes $3+ billion (up from $1.5 in 2023) per year; they have 21 million paying customers out of 240 million users. "Only" 8.75% are paying customers. They don't need huge uptake in AI subscriptions from Affinity. So yeah, free is sustainable for the foreseeable future.

Would they continue to invest in Affinity development if it isn’t converting in to paying users?

Re: Affinity Studio now free

#475
I looove the fact that we can now seamlessly switch between the Photo, Designer, and Publisher modalities within a single program.

One of the great things about using the Affinity suite for the last few years has been the consistency of design conventions and key commands across all three programs, so of course it makes sense to merge them all!

Whereas Photoshop, Illustrator, and InDesign all have inherited different commands and conventions from their independent developments and are incongruent.

I'm so impressed by the workflow now. This feels like a tremendous win from a workflow standpoint.

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Free software is dead? Free software is still there, same as it ever was. And it will be there forever. The more people flee to it from SAAS shittification, the better it will get.

It’s not dead, but a lot of it is stagnant. How much has Gimp improved in the last 10 years vs photoshop.

Gimp, maybe not so much[1], but I understand that Krita has improved quite a bit. And regardless of stagnancy, both of these applications will continue to exist long after Affinity gets our-incredible-journeyed.

[1]: (FWIW, I don't know one way or the other. Apologies to any Gimp developers here.)

Re: Affinity Studio now free

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I mean 20+ years ago we called this shareware. If you get value out of the free part of a tool, great! If not, then you get to choose to pay for the rest or not. Personally I'm happy that it tends to be the feature set I can live without that costs money. Not always, but often enough.

Fair, but shareware was pay-once, which many people find preferable to a subscription-chained model.

That's a great distinction.

There is a big difference between a one time payment and a recurring payment, especially if the company canceling the product or going out of business means you can no longer use the tool, and I honestly steer clear of those in most cases.

Re: Affinity Studio now free

#478
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For personal use, piracy is always an option.

How does that work with SaaS?

I've been thinking about this lately. It's really difficult to understand where your dependencies are with modern software.

I might built myself a full blown piracy machine that never gets to access the internet so I have access to an environment that can't get taken away. At the very least, it'll be a good way to learn how much dependence there is on internet connectivity, which we all know the answer to - way too much.

Re: Affinity Studio now free

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Yeah, 100% sure it will get worse, especially after the AI bubble pops.

the ai bubble has already popped!!! the biggest tech companies on the planet who are spending insane amounts of capex on “ai” keep reporting insane earnings reports one after another, things are popping left & right

I think you may be using a different definition of a "bubble popping."

Re: Affinity Studio now free

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Man. This is another case in favor of open source. OSS may take years to get there but it doesn't go poof in one sudden day either.

Open Source absolutely stops being maintained. And worse.

Yup, source code does not stay maintainable automatically. Just that code is open does not mean anyone can or wants to do any reasonable development.

The only ”safer” bets are the biggest projects providing critical infra for segments of economy like python for example.

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