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Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Funny that they do that after the purchases have been made. Goes to show how much bundled services upset the user-manufacturer relationship, to the detriment of the user.

Using a service is an ongoing relationship, and relationships change over time, sometimes for the worse. This needs to be factored in as risk, every time someone makes a purchase that includes a service.

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Why don't they make part of the door with that magical see-through material my windows are made of ?

Glass is not a good thermal insulator, and is more expensive than plastic.

My windows are insulated. Is it more expensive than a screen/camera/electronics ?

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Actually, I was (partly) right. In Germany, they run with 400 V, I just googled it. Never heard of this. I though 360 with 3 phases.

In most of Europe (which runs a shared grid), not just Germany, it's 230V between any two of the three wires and 400V on each line: > For example, in countries with nominal 230 V power, the line voltage is 400 V and the phase voltage is 230 V. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-phase_electric_power In the counter integrated induction simply gets connected with all three phases, which are available in-house anyways.…

Between phases, it is 400 V; between phase and neutral, 230 V. There are five "lines": three phases, one neutral and one ground.

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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> Include instructions for carrying out the functional method which are accessible and easily usable by a non-technical individual Good luck for anyone to claim this bounty if that's one of the requirements. Does the fridge have any exposed ports at all that the average person could access without removing anything from the fridge? It's also not clear in the bounty, if I add funds to the campaign and it gets fully fu…

What's the use if a non-technical individual can't apply the fix?

What's my donation gonna go to if the requirements are impossible to fulfill?

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Doesn't it just affect US citizens?

The US has successfully bullied many countries around the world to adopt their same insane IP laws, at the cost of cancelling trade agreements with those countries if they don't comply. So no, it affects many countries.

In fact the first DeCSS trial was in Norway. Which started the whole internet wide civil disobedience campaign of mirroring it, putting it in haikus and t-shirts, etc.

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Obviously, this is not a change aimed at enticing customers but instead expanding revenue streams. And its obvious that all western governments hand-wringing over green and efficient energy usage falls apart as long manufacturers like Samsung, AWS, Sony are allowed to waste network bandwidth and chew up consumer and industry energy supply on superfluous pointless fluff like adverts where they are not needed or welcome. It is proof again that Advertising is really about pushing messaging at people rather than selling anything. Samsung already lost me with removing expandable storage in premium phones. Now they have reached levels of avoid that will push me to any alternative that respects the customer's usage needs.

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Crap crap and more crap. The quality control on GE fridges is absolutely the worst of all worst. It's possible because you are working with the economy of scale that you don't see the typical problems that individuals run into. But I went through 5 in a row and every single one had a problem. Switched to LG and never looked back

LG with their faulty Linear Compressors and craft ice makers that are doomed to fail? The one with the big lawsuit for their faulty fridges? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y54QbkCtFE4 I have an LG fridge. I like it. I think the linear compressor tech is cool, even if their implementation is potentially flawed. I don't expect this thing to last a decade.

The one I have does not have a linear compressor. I replaced my fridge last year

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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post #328

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Maybe we need a new boots theory: The rich person buys a $3500 pair of boots that comes with surveillance, useless AI, and bricks itself on the next firmware update. The poor person buys a pair of boots, that are... boots.

It's probably more like a rich person will spend $50 on a pair of boots that will last 10 years, while a poor person will spend $10 on a pair of boots that will last a year. The upper middle class person will spend the $40 on a pair of boots that comes with surveillance and useless AI, while a middle class person will spend $30 for the same, except it bricks itself on the next firmware update.

Boots and shoes are interesting because they're genuinely an area where premium materials and construction _could_ significantly improve how long they last. We're talking 1-2 years for "normal" boots and decades for $500+ boots (with re-soling) There's also a good middle ground here. I'm not saying everyone needs really expensive boots, but it nice that you can actually spend more money for higher quality rather than a horrible system on a chip that fails after a year and renders a whole product useless.

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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So I recently (last two years or so) bought a (non-Samsung, non-smart) fridge. It's a very nice fridge. It cost, IIRC, about $1000-1500. No internet connection, no ads, no screen to play them on. Why would I pay $2000 more for a more annoying fridge?

which one?

Don't recall, sorry. I'm at work, so I can't check right now.

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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No, these are US$3500 fridges.

$3500 is about 1/3 of the cost of a "rich person" fridge.

The fridge example is an interesting problem. A middle class person would probably be much better off just buying a used or cheap fridge. ~$100 - $1000. It will last as long as the $3500 - $5000 fridge and will cost a fraction as much. (and due to not being premium-aka-huge will be much easier to cart inside and outside of your house when it does break down.)

In _principle_ the truly rich person would be better off with a really expensive fridge. Except the chances that it performs better or lasts longer are tiny. So for 4x-10x the price, you have no improvement. The only way to improve your outcome is to spend enough time doing research such that you can figure out if _any_ refrigerators aren't pieces of crap. A for-real rich person has more money than time, so this isn't worth it either. Yes, they might settle on the first fridge that's available and looks nice -- and this _could_ be a premium fridge -- but they really don't get any benefit from a premium fridge either. ie, there's nothing to really push them from a $2k fridge to a $5k fridge unless it's just something like capacity.

In other words, poor-to-middle class should NEVER buy a premium fridge -- but only because the market is terrible and "premium" _usually_ does not mean "more reliable." (if premium meant "much more reliable" then they should buy premium when they can afford it, as it would cost less over time due to longevity.) However, a rich person also accrues almost no benefit from a premium fridge, as the real cost to them is research time and not money.

So, who are these products for? Probably middle class people who want to _appear_ rich.

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