Hosting a website on a disposable vape • Hacker News Board

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

#471

Post by efilife » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 12:52 AM UTC

Dilettante_ wrote: post #76

efilife wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am probably stupid so bear with me. I don't get the part about not naming brands if you are certain they won't ever sponsor you. I feel like it just hurts the value of the article with nothing gained

It's not about sponsorships and integrity, it's about preventing the pipeline "Person reads article -> Sees this brand of vape has micocontrollers -> Buys this brand of vape". (If I understood the author correctly, y'know, not to speak for them)

don't worry about speaking for the author. I want to gather as many explanations of this as possible because none of them seem to be consistent and make much sense. I feel like people do this because others do it too without much questioning.

With your example, why would the author care whether some random person buys the vape he mentioned in his article? I don't see the point

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

#472

Post by efilife » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 12:54 AM UTC

Dilettante_ wrote: post #316

efilife wrote: post #278

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, but what's bad about this?

Contributing to people buying stuff that's bad for them, and giving money to an industry that profits off it, presumably? Again, I'm just assuming the author's position(which, for the record I do not share) here.

may I ask what's your personal stance on this?

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

#473

Post by efilife » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 12:55 AM UTC

acuozzo wrote: post #325

efilife wrote: post #278

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, but what's bad about this?

Possibly greater e-waste than there would otherwise have been.

I doubt it. He doesn't want to mention a SPECIFIC brand. But is fine with mentioning vaping. Or maybe you meant the chip?

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

#474

Post by bornfreddy » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 1:38 AM UTC

hn_acc1 wrote: post #327

schlauerfox wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do wonder if there would be a workable law where companies are permanently responsible for what they produce, they must always accept back and responsibly recycle/break down to resources what they put out there, and do away with the shifting of responsibility of waste to society? Seems like a terrible engineering challenge but the right thing to do.

That would create a lot of work for corporate lawyers to create shell companies, merge/push-responsibility-onto/unmerge transactions, selling of "waste cleanup credits" by companies who then quickly go bankrupt (after the founders take all the $$ out of the company), etc...

If there's a will, there's a way... You can only sell "waste cleanup credits" to stable companies (exist more than N years, collateral funds in excess of what the waste disposal costs are,...). The problem is political, as usual.

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

#475

Post by bornfreddy » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 2:00 AM UTC

levocardia wrote: post #392

jimmaswell wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vaping nicotine doesn't seem that bad to me. AFAICT the dangers outside simple addictiveness are moderate lung irritation and cardiovascular effects, but no strong evidence of cancer caused by vaping alone - far better than cigarettes, and still better than an equivalent drinking problem.

Amazingly, nicotine is one of the few things in tobacco smoke that isn't carcinogenic.

Still far from harmless though.

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

#476

Post by cluckindan » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 6:41 AM UTC

citizenpaul wrote: post #465

cluckindan wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could say that for a lot of devices. It is indisputable that anyone switching cigarette smoking to vaping is making a healthier choice.

>healthier choice No just no. https://www.heart.org/en/healthy-living/healthy-lifestyle/qu...

You’re seriously considering that inhaling vapor of nicotinized smoke machine liquid is equally bad as inhaling 700-1200 Celsius combustion products containing microparticles and radioactive isotopes?

I get that people want to scare kids, but that level of hyperbole is way overkill and has the opposite psychological effect on those who can think for themselves.

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

#477

Post by cluckindan » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 6:42 AM UTC

chucksmash wrote: post #459

cluckindan wrote: post #412

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obviously it isn’t about a single vape. A bulk dealer wants to get rid of stock as quickly as possible, so they don’t expect a payment up front. Say it’s a box of 200 vapes. Then, someone steals it from the teenage vape dealer. Now, the teenager is out $4k in income but expected to pay $1k to $2k to the bulk dealer. That kind of debt to organized crime balloons fast; there are no controls on the interest. After a mon…

What does somebody buying hundreds of vapes to resell and then having them stolen have to do with individual customers, which was the original premise?

Read it again?

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

#478

Post by cluckindan » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 6:43 AM UTC

HaZeust wrote: post #468

cluckindan wrote: post #412

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obviously it isn’t about a single vape. A bulk dealer wants to get rid of stock as quickly as possible, so they don’t expect a payment up front. Say it’s a box of 200 vapes. Then, someone steals it from the teenage vape dealer. Now, the teenager is out $4k in income but expected to pay $1k to $2k to the bulk dealer. That kind of debt to organized crime balloons fast; there are no controls on the interest. After a mon…

The conversation was about a single vape, and casual use, in the first place. And yeah, I bet that's happened before, just like I bet a day-trader who ran on margin has lost all of his savings, house, cars, and wages through garnishment. That doesn't mean it's how 99% of situations, even in trading on margin, goes. Even as it relates to underage dealers - even the stupid ones, a very few amount of teens buy in bulk -…

It was about smuggling and dealing from my parent comment onwards.

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

#479

Post by bloqs » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 9:29 AM UTC

seabird wrote: post #350

bloqs wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i have owned lots. they taste better than most permanent vapes. ive tried the whole buy all the best components and perfect juices etc with various tanks of different flavours. disposables just work and taste good, no leaks. they also have a logical end point like a pack of cigarettes. Its nice to switch flavour more frequently, and the packet/vape body colours pressed deep monkey brain buttons for fruit etc

50mg/ml disposable vape liquid tasting better than the freebase stuff is a crazy take. I haven't met a single person who was there before the modern disposable trash that doesn't think it's markedly worse. It tastes like gas station vape juice circa 2012. Good reusable systems have been around for 10 years now. Disposables sell well because people like to think that they can quit whenever they want without having to…

gas station vape juice circa 2012 seems like a touch exaggerated. ive extensively researched making my permanent vape setup taste as good, and its down to the amount and type of sweetener used which doesnt seem to be available.

ive even bought the brand of liquid owned by the disposable company with the same branding. it's just not quite there.

you also have to accept the market for them, according to what you have said above shouldnt exist, but it does

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

#480

Post by dspillett » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 9:35 AM UTC

skeezyjefferson wrote: post #439

dspillett wrote: post #434

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The poor avaialbility was largely due to the great pricing: small commercial users scooped them up in the largest quanitites that they could because they were so competative against other options both in terms of pricce and having the advantage of decent support¹ unlike other inexpensive SoCs. Max-per-customer limits imposed by some distributors were not hard to get around. That meant it was difficult for the individ…

> The poor avaialbility was largely due to the great pricing: the poor availability was because they didnt make enough. they blame supply chain issues around covid. in the time they were complaining that it wasnt their fault, competitors like the esp32 started appearing and taking market share. i was totally put off the rpi because of that saga. its no longer a good deal, there are better options in either direction…

> the poor availability was because they didnt make enough.

I mean, yeah, that is obvious. But for early products, especially when the level of demand is greater than expectations as it was for both the early Pi and PiZero variants, it is sometimes impractical to ramp up production and supply chains fast enough. If they had made a pile more before release and demand hadn't been that high they would have gone bust with a load of stock in warehouses.

> they blame supply chain issues around covid

You've got your timeline very compressed there. The first couple of Pi Zero variants (this thread started with “The original Raspberry Pi Zero was…”) and supply issues associated with them, were around quite a bit before the effects of C19 and the associated supply chain problems. The Pi Zero 2 was released during the time when the chip shortage and related problems were biting, but the previous version was released a couple of years before 2020 and the first version a couple of years before that.