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Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by Fuzzwah »

This seems like a good place to randomly drop my thoughts on switching from a Samsung s20+ to a Pixel 9 Pro. The hardware is excellent in the hand. The display is great, battery life excellent, the UI is snappy, does all the basic things I expect from a quality device. Over all, no huge regrets..... but...

The scrolling in every app is just "different" from the Samsung, and in a "not as good" way. I moved to Pixel with the (as I now realise) very out dated idea that a Pixel phone would allow me MORE customisation and configurability than the Samsung/Galaxy environment. Oh boy, how wrong I was. Turns out there's a whole stack of Samsung bundled apps or ones available through their Galaxy store for free that I'd gotten so used to I thought it was default Android stuff.

I miss:

  - per app volume control  
  - nav bar customisation  
  - lock screen config  
  - many of the good lock apps  
  - shake for torch  
  - the samsung camera app  
  - control of what apps CAN run in the background (the pixel murders everything)  
  - subtle ways that Nova Launcher has problems
So yeah, next time I'm in the market for a phone I think I'm going back to Samsung.

I want Google to be better...

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by GloriousKoji »

dwaite wrote: post #318
highwaylights wrote: post #300

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No judgement here. I liked my touchbar, and was pretty productive with it before it got axed.

I maintain that if the Touch Bar had been made full height and had an affordance (like slightly more distance) to prevent accidental touches, it would have been way more practical. Apple tends to have products on a design refresh schedule, and for the Mac is it about five years. I think the combination of user dislike of the initial implementation and limited developer integration caused the physical Touch Bar to be…

I've said this before but the trackpad is too big and they could have fit both function keys and touch bar and everyone would have been happy.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by paulddraper »

mg wrote: post #94

The people at Google seem to think much more like me than the people at Apple. There are 3 primary decisions Google made that click with me, while Apple's choices are a mystery to me: 1: When I put a Pixel on a table, it sits there stable. Because the backside is symmetrical. When I put an iPhone on a table, it wobbles. 2: When I sort my photos on a Pixel, I sort them in folders. The "camera" folder is where the unso…

I recently switched to an iPhone.

I legitimately struggle to find anything better.

(Battery, perhaps?)

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by npteljes »

can16358p wrote: post #453

Hardware: looks nice. Software: big NO. Anything from Google is a red flag for me. If there was a hypothetical phone with this hardware with iOS, that would be really nice.

Try Pixels with GrapheneOS. Most of that software is still "from Google" technically, but it's reworked in some important ways, especially on a service level. For example, by default it has no Google apps or services, you can install Play store sandboxed, etc.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by andrepd »

thewebguyd wrote: post #140
mg wrote: post #94

The people at Google seem to think much more like me than the people at Apple. There are 3 primary decisions Google made that click with me, while Apple's choices are a mystery to me: 1: When I put a Pixel on a table, it sits there stable. Because the backside is symmetrical. When I put an iPhone on a table, it wobbles. 2: When I sort my photos on a Pixel, I sort them in folders. The "camera" folder is where the unso…

Same for me, although I currently use an iPhone (and the rest of the Apple ecosystem). I actually don't like iOS, and barely tolerate macOS but I love the hardware on mac right now. For me, it's Apple's privacy stance (which I know could change at anytime, but that's where we are at right now). Give me a Pixel & all the Google stuff but without Google, and with advanced data protection and Apple's tracking protection…

> Give me a Pixel & all the Google stuff but without Google, and with advanced data protection and Apple's tracking protection and transparency and I'm in.

This is literally GrapheneOS or LineageOS+microg x) which ironically is fully available on Pixel phones and and a slowly vanishing number of others...

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by thewebguyd »

StopDisinfo910 wrote: post #467
thewebguyd wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same for me, although I currently use an iPhone (and the rest of the Apple ecosystem). I actually don't like iOS, and barely tolerate macOS but I love the hardware on mac right now. For me, it's Apple's privacy stance (which I know could change at anytime, but that's where we are at right now). Give me a Pixel & all the Google stuff but without Google, and with advanced data protection and Apple's tracking protection…

Could anyone here waxing lyrically about Apple so called privacy stand explain to me what that actually is apart from a marketing point Apple keeps repeating? Because from where I stand they do load everything into their cloud. They insist on having you pay for iCloud through obnoxious means. They have you go through their store for everything. They even have an ad platform. What supposedly so good about it? Their tr…

E2EE (advanced data protection) without having to use something like Proton, so can stay in the very convenient "ecosystem." With it turned on, keys are on your device, Apple doesn't have them and can't use them and it covers all the main stuff - photos, messages, notes, etc.

It's still a compromise, sure, but it's a better compromise than what Google offers.

Plus small things. Apple's tracking protection for example is opt in instead of opt out on Android. Google's core business is ads, they won't push features that can negatively impact that. Apple also has an ad division but it's not their main focus, hardware is. They can implement better privacy without impacting their bottom line. Apple's refusal to unlock phones at the request of the FBI, etc.

It's not that Apple is the be all end all for privacy, but they are far ahead of Google and are by far the most convenient option if you are within the walled garden.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by greycol »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #83
bityard wrote: post #55

> Pixel 10, Pixel 10 Pro and Pixel 10 Pro XL are all available for preorder today starting at $799, $999 and $1199. Sigh, still not going to pay more for a phone than I paid for my computer. Also, what is up with that camera module? This doesn't look like it can physically slide into jeans pockets. At least round the corners or add little ramps. I guess this is what happens when design folk are allowed to trump engin…

> This doesn't look like it can physically slide into jeans pockets. I'm interested to hear more about this, because it's always interesting to understand how other people interact with things who have different use cases or usage models. How tight are your jeans, and how do you fit anything else in your pocket if something ~1in thick doesn't fit comfortably (without having to force the pocket open in a way that woul…

A lot of people buy clothes for their looks with minimal weighting towards functionality (or rather that is the functionality). If you've got a body in reasonable nick then tight pants can look good.

The traditional solution to poor pockets is a purse or bag. Phones are interesting in that they can demand attention and that they are probably the most used item that people carry around with them. Thus people compromise their lines/comfort to actually use the faster accessibility of pockets. Probably explains the popularity of ridge wallets and key wallets too.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by paulddraper »

StopDisinfo910 wrote: post #467
thewebguyd wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same for me, although I currently use an iPhone (and the rest of the Apple ecosystem). I actually don't like iOS, and barely tolerate macOS but I love the hardware on mac right now. For me, it's Apple's privacy stance (which I know could change at anytime, but that's where we are at right now). Give me a Pixel & all the Google stuff but without Google, and with advanced data protection and Apple's tracking protection…

Could anyone here waxing lyrically about Apple so called privacy stand explain to me what that actually is apart from a marketing point Apple keeps repeating? Because from where I stand they do load everything into their cloud. They insist on having you pay for iCloud through obnoxious means. They have you go through their store for everything. They even have an ad platform. What supposedly so good about it? Their tr…

Apple is much more strict on app tracking (and apps in general).

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by [deleted] »

pier25 wrote: post #445
mg wrote: post #94

The people at Google seem to think much more like me than the people at Apple. There are 3 primary decisions Google made that click with me, while Apple's choices are a mystery to me: 1: When I put a Pixel on a table, it sits there stable. Because the backside is symmetrical. When I put an iPhone on a table, it wobbles. 2: When I sort my photos on a Pixel, I sort them in folders. The "camera" folder is where the unso…

I've been using Android for years but for reasons recently switched to an iPhone. I gotta say Android is superior in a number of things like call and SMS spam. Also typing on iOS is a frustrating experience. I type "Im" and the iOS keyboard won't offer "I'm" as a correction option. I've even tried using the Google Keyboard on iOS and the multilingual predictions are just not as good as on Android. I would have prefer…

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