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Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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> anytime the other two are involved the police need to respond too No. When your partner has an urgent medical issue, you call the ambulance, not the police.

You want whoever is time closest to respond as well. While the ambulance is better, the police should have first aid training and a good sized first aid kit. When seconds are counting you are better off with someone partially trained who can get there fast over someone better trained who takes longer.

> You want whoever is time closest to respond as well.

If you require the police to respond to all medical emergencies, then you have to fund the police at a level which allows them to do that, often at the expense of funding the people who actually should be responding to a medical emergency.

Taking the attitude that the police must respond to all emergency calls even if the only indication of what capacities are needed are fire and/or ambulance services results in a distortion of local funding which makes emergency response worse (it also results in the police presence itself making the response to other things worse in cases where they were not needed, even considering the resources actually available at the time, without considering the effect of response policy on resource allocation -- police are not always neutral-to-beneficial.)

The fact that it is a common rule in the US does not make it right. The US is very bad, compared to other developed countries, at lots of things.

Re: Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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What about the context of IP content piracy between countries?

Can you give any examples of IP piracy (outside of China) because IP in the US doesn't automatically transfer outside the US, they need to be registered in other regions also..

Sure, my wasted youth buying VCD's that turned out to be shitty telesync/cam rips.

Re: Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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Not only are the US the biggest film exporter in the world by far, with Hollywood being a pillar of American soft power, but you can't even apply “tariff” to movies as it is IP, not physical goods (on which tariffs apply). Sure you can imagine schemes to tax these anyway, but that's a huge can of worms to open for the US, are they are net exporters of everything IP related. The EU has been struggling with base evasio…

> but you can't even apply “tariff” to movies as it is IP, not physical goods (on which tariffs apply

A government can apply tariffs to any exchange it chooses, but movies are explicitly excluded from the law on which Trump has relied for tariffs, so short of getting a new law passed to authorize movie tariffs, there is no legal authority.

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It would be interesting to reshuffle the over 10k spent per child. Pods of 10-15 kids could afford PhD level tutors.

You think a PhD automatically makes someone a better teacher than a school teacher? Shows quite an elitism that assumes knowledge and scholarly ability is the mark of a good teacher. From someone who actually taught in schools, scholarship matters almost zero, classroom management and emotional intelligence are far more important in a school teacher. And giving away the money? You’d lose all amenities of a school, th…

It could certainly be an option for some people. You could have navy seals for the kids who want to master outdoors, music themed experts etc. not one size fits all, but unlimited options.

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There already are tarrifs and bans against Hollywood in many countries.

Name 10.

I wasn’t sure there would be 10, but nearly all the big countries add extra taxes on Hollywood movies to fund their own competitors. It’s effectively a tariff.

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Everyone in this thread is reading surface level media summaries. This is 1000% pro-union. IATSE workers have been decimated by the move of productions to Serbia since 2023. LA and Atlanta film productions have all but collapsed since the offshoring of production. Serbian crews work without unions for much cheaper than local IATSE members. This is designed to save IATSE and domestic American production.

Since when does the MAGA crowd give a hoot about unions? The studios are dying. I go to the movies every week when there are movies. Other than Minecraft, the biggest crowd I’ve seen was the Star Wars re-release.

Since the Dems charged towards globalization. The former union workers are being devastated by it and think protectionism will help them. It possibly will help them, just not America as a whole.

Thats the general line of reasoning. Rs are walking a line with union courting since a chunk of their base is anti union, just as dems were walking a line with globalization.

This is my current understanding of the undercurrents.

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> if a significant amount of film production moves to the UK, it's likely that criticisms of the UK would be more muted. Have you watched British television or movies sometimes? They're not exactly sparing their country from criticism .. E.g. (the original) House of Cards, Not the Nine O'Clock News, etc. The other country you mention, China, is a better match. But is that the kind of society that the USA wants to be?

Are you intentionally missing the point? Our films made in the US are already neutered from a free-speech perspective because we're chasing opinions that are politically correct in China . We don't want to worsen that by bending to every foreign tax break. We should be making unapologetically American movies, and if foreign consumers still watch those movies, all the better. But we shouldn't be writing these to a low…

There's no "we" here. If you want to go ahead and make a politically incorrect movie, then you have the freedom to do that.

Just like others are free to make movies the way they see fit.

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112 works in the reverse way in the US as well (along with 999 which is the equivalent in many other countries such as the UK). There's not really any reason not to have many numbers just in case. Tourists shouldn't have to memorize, and recall, new numbers in an emergency.

Hello operator, gimme the number for nine one one!

https://amphetamem.es/meme?id=the-simpsons_02_07_335&timesta...

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I wouldn't call "Ivan Vasilievich Changes His Profession" that either. It's more of a "Blazing Saddles" type movie with a cult following due to its catchphrases, but overall, it isn't very good. Even among movies by the same director, some slightly earlier titles like "Kidnapping, Caucasian Style" and "The Diamond Arm" from the late 1960s are much better, and hold up well against Hollywood contemporaries like "It's a…

Ask Russian-speakers to recommend a fun iconic movie to watch, and Ivan Vasilievich comes up all the time. I don’t see why, but it does. Diamond Hand too. It would be ridiculous if the same were true about Hollywood. A Russian asks an American what movies to watch, and 8 out of 10 people go back to 1969 to recommend the same one? Impossible. You’d get everything from Citizen Kane to Hitchcock to Rocky, etc. But you’d…

The quality of recommendations depends on the social circle, I guess. When the Russian Guild of Film Critics picked the 100 best movies from 1908 to 2000, "Ivan Vasilievich Changes His Profession" didn't make it to the list, but the other movies I mentioned did: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls006516589/

That list includes everything from the Wes Anderson-esque "Beware of the Car" to the gritty Western-in-the-East "White Sun of the Desert", to "Come and See", a truly disturbing war drama. Lots to choose from, and many notable omissions still remain, like the wonderful 1977 comedy "Mimino" about a rural helicopter pilot who dreams of flying large airliners, and the "Peculiarities of the National Hunt" from 1995 depicting a Finn with overly romanticized expectations coming to Russia to learn about the traditional hunting customs.

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There were several from China to be exact (Hong Kong to be precise, which had its own cinema golden-era between the late 80'and early 00'), and more than one from France also, some of which are more contemporary :) . Most movie everywhere are not masterpiece, incredible contribution to the art, tasteful and original. They are easy, made to profit, amateurish, etc. That is true for every art form. Again, yes the US be…

> https://youtu.be/R5eefu7wjbw Vaudeville slapstick > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq9wIQ243f8 Melodramatic poorly acted, over-choreographed, stunt wire work. Might as well be a dance or a cartoon. At least in the Matrix homage to this genre, there was some diegetic explanation for why the characters appeared to be throwing each other around on wires. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z0XBq74c0w A 1964 film where…

> A 1964 film where every line is sung? You got me there. Chalk one up for the appeal of international cinema over Hollywood.

This snarky remark ridicules you more than it does the film. "The Umbrellas of Cherbourg" is widely considered one of the finest romantic movies ever made. Its use of color and lead performances are legendary. I'll let Patton Oswalt explain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nuprpehbaok

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