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Virginia passes law to enforce maximum vehicle speeds for repeat speeders

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Re: Virginia passes law to enforce maximum vehicle speeds for repeat speeders

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Post by HenryBemis »

inglor_cz wrote: post #463
herbst wrote: post #459

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean the historic city center? Pretty sure that's not exactly state of the art

This place: https://maps.app.goo.gl/hfDcJek99whs9Ghu8 Cobblestone is an old technology, though. How does "state of the art" differ from what we can see on this street view?

I think someone can drive 80km/h on this one. Plus they should be super-slippery in rain, right?

I remember crossing Poland towards Lithuania some years back, and in some village 1h from the border had a 500m part with stones, and those stones used would force me to do 25-30km/h and not more, I feared that my tires would burst, also the noise was unbearable.

Re: Virginia passes law to enforce maximum vehicle speeds for repeat speeders

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Post by smeej »

Why are typical passenger vehicles even sold with the ability to go so fast? Or perhaps more pertinently, why aren't any typical passenger vehicles I've ever heard of sold without the ability to go so fast?

I think the overwhelming majority (like 90%+) of people would happily buy a car that couldn't go more than 100mph. Many who only rarely leave their cities and would be happy to use alternate transportation if they did would probably buy a car that couldn't go more than 50mph.

Going that fast seems like a feature most people don't care enough about that they'd be willing to pay for it, so why does the market appear to include it by default?

Re: Virginia passes law to enforce maximum vehicle speeds for repeat speeders

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Post by CogitoCogito »

mschuster91 wrote: post #387
jonathanlydall wrote: post #374

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is people who as matter of course travel above the speed limit regardless of if any other motorists are around them, as they are “playing by different rules”, making them more unpredictable and stressful for those around them. Just two days ago I did a long distance trip and in general I could engage cruise control at the speed limit allowing me to focus more on other potential hazards around me. Occasion…

The question is, if everyone is speeding, would it not make sense to raise the speed limit?

A similar method is in indeed used in many jurisdictions:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_limit#Operating_speed

There are advantages and disadvantages as with everything.

Re: Virginia passes law to enforce maximum vehicle speeds for repeat speeders

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Post by socalgal2 »

lillecarl wrote: post #445
mschuster91 wrote: post #387

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The question is, if everyone is speeding, would it not make sense to raise the speed limit?

KE = ½mv² shows that kinetic energy is directly proportional to the mass of an object and proportional to the square of its velocity. This means that doubling the mass doubles the kinetic energy, but doubling the velocity quadruples the kinetic energy. The kinetic energy of an 1800 kg car traveling at 30 km/h is about 62.5 kJ The kinetic energy of an 1800 kg car traveling at 50 km/h is about 173.6 kJ The kinetic ener…

This is the most annoying thing, they risk the lives of themselves and everyone around them and gain at most 1-2 minutes on 30 minute drive.

It ridiculous how often someone speeds by, breaking the speed limit and often various other traffic laws and 30 seconds later we're side by side in traffic because their wreckless driving didn't actually but them any time.

Re: Virginia passes law to enforce maximum vehicle speeds for repeat speeders

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Post by timeon »

bluecalm wrote: post #328
allenrb wrote: post #224

Speed limiters built into cars. Anti-infringement technology built into general-purpose computers. And yet, guns and ammo freely available and unrestricted outside of automatic weapons and the like? Yeah. Can’t wait to move off-grid someday. (Yes, obviously American) I’ve got enough sense to keep it slow and safe in populated areas, yet occasionally open it up elsewhere when conditions are right. Guess that’s another…

Speeding kills much more people than guns. It also kills much more innocent outsiders (a lot of gun death are suicides or gang infightings). It also introduces atmosphere of terror on public roads making walking or cycling dangerous. It's a way bigger problem than guns.

> or gang infightings

Gangs have easy access to guns when everyone does.

Re: Virginia passes law to enforce maximum vehicle speeds for repeat speeders

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Post by davemp »

smeej wrote: post #472

Why are typical passenger vehicles even sold with the ability to go so fast? Or perhaps more pertinently, why aren't any typical passenger vehicles I've ever heard of sold without the ability to go so fast? I think the overwhelming majority (like 90%+) of people would happily buy a car that couldn't go more than 100mph. Many who only rarely leave their cities and would be happy to use alternate transportation if they…

I’m not much of a gear head but I believe that a car would perform much worse at 0-80mph if it couldn’t physically reach 120mph. You can artificially limit it and I think that’s what folks take with.

Re: Virginia passes law to enforce maximum vehicle speeds for repeat speeders

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Post by HDThoreaun »

smeej wrote: post #472

Why are typical passenger vehicles even sold with the ability to go so fast? Or perhaps more pertinently, why aren't any typical passenger vehicles I've ever heard of sold without the ability to go so fast? I think the overwhelming majority (like 90%+) of people would happily buy a car that couldn't go more than 100mph. Many who only rarely leave their cities and would be happy to use alternate transportation if they…

Because people dont want to buy cars that cant go over 100 mph.

> I think the overwhelming majority (like 90%+) of people would happily buy a car that couldn't go more than 100mph

You are empirically wrong I think.

Re: Virginia passes law to enforce maximum vehicle speeds for repeat speeders

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Post by bayindirh »

socalgal2 wrote: post #474
lillecarl wrote: post #445

Earlier quoted context omitted.

KE = ½mv² shows that kinetic energy is directly proportional to the mass of an object and proportional to the square of its velocity. This means that doubling the mass doubles the kinetic energy, but doubling the velocity quadruples the kinetic energy. The kinetic energy of an 1800 kg car traveling at 30 km/h is about 62.5 kJ The kinetic energy of an 1800 kg car traveling at 50 km/h is about 173.6 kJ The kinetic ener…

This is the most annoying thing, they risk the lives of themselves and everyone around them and gain at most 1-2 minutes on 30 minute drive. It ridiculous how often someone speeds by, breaking the speed limit and often various other traffic laws and 30 seconds later we're side by side in traffic because their wreckless driving didn't actually but them any time.

My favorite pastime in traffic is to pull next to the person who was speeding and doing aggressive lane changes at the next red light by driving completely calm and under speed limit, and even without changing lanes.

Re: Virginia passes law to enforce maximum vehicle speeds for repeat speeders

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Post by timeon »

blincoln wrote: post #421
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #404

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assuming you have high utility for guns, what do you use it for? Hunting? I'm no hunter and have never felt like I need a gun.

I'm guessing you've never lived in a rural area? * Protection against aggressive wild animals. * Protection against aggresive humans. This often applies elsewhere, but becomes less and less optional the further away law enforcement is. * Arguably more humane way of killing pests than poison or most types of lethal trap.

I lived mostly in rural areas but this still sounds too wild. Are US rural areas so dangerous? Especially aggressive humans? I've newer felt that I need the gun to protect myself, but than again I do not live in a place where 'aggressive humans' could easily[0] have a gun.

[0] As it is harder to obtain gun on illegal market when it is harder to obtain one on legal market.

Re: Virginia passes law to enforce maximum vehicle speeds for repeat speeders

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Post by robin_reala »

davemp wrote: post #476
smeej wrote: post #472

Why are typical passenger vehicles even sold with the ability to go so fast? Or perhaps more pertinently, why aren't any typical passenger vehicles I've ever heard of sold without the ability to go so fast? I think the overwhelming majority (like 90%+) of people would happily buy a car that couldn't go more than 100mph. Many who only rarely leave their cities and would be happy to use alternate transportation if they…

I’m not much of a gear head but I believe that a car would perform much worse at 0-80mph if it couldn’t physically reach 120mph. You can artificially limit it and I think that’s what folks take with.

Volvo limit all their cars to 110mph and no-one seems to care. https://www.media.volvocars.com/global/en-gb/media/pressrele...
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