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Re: Adobe deletes Bluesky posts after backlash

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Post by liendolucas »

InsideOutSanta wrote: post #433
sanswork wrote: post #373

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I just went back through the sign up process to check and it seems pretty obvious these days? I got three options at checkout annual billed monthly, monthly, annual. I hate annual billed monthly but the wording isn't hidden.

I think it's still not great. The annual/monthly plan says: >Annual, billed monthly >US$22.99/mo >Fee applies if you cancel after 14 days There's a popup you can open with more information, but that just says: >If you cancel after 14 days, your service will continue until the end of that month's billing period, and you will be charged an early termination fee. It doesn't tell you anywhere what that fee is, and I can'…

Fee application for cancelling a subscription service should be absolutely illegal.

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maayank wrote: post #470
bravetraveler wrote: post #461

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Throwaways/virtual cards are my default state. If it's worth subscribing, it's worth the seconds it takes to generate and copy. Think about it: you're in control. Not being at the mercy of... whoever is great. You said it yourself: attempt . Why play with your money? The toys/experiences it can afford are way more fun. Chargebacks are more effort, and IIRC, weigh negatively on you as well. Can only do so many. I expe…

How do you make virtual cards?

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Re: Adobe deletes Bluesky posts after backlash

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Post by _7acn »

thiht wrote: post #465
_7acn wrote: post #464

In my country, what Adobe is doing is punishable by imprisonment for a period of 6 months to 8 years. Yet, for some reason, they operate in this market without the slightest problem. “Whoever, with the intention of obtaining financial gain, causes another person to enter into a financially disadvantageous arrangement, or otherwise dispose of their own or someone else’s assets, by means of deception, or by exploiting…

That sounds like a huge stretch.

How exactly? They lead people into signing a one-year contract without any possibility of withdrawal by misleading customers into believing it's a monthly subscription. Personally, I know two people who had to block their payment cards through their banks because it was otherwise impossible to cancel their Adobe subscription.

Re: Adobe deletes Bluesky posts after backlash

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Post by sensanaty »

maayank wrote: post #470
bravetraveler wrote: post #461

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Throwaways/virtual cards are my default state. If it's worth subscribing, it's worth the seconds it takes to generate and copy. Think about it: you're in control. Not being at the mercy of... whoever is great. You said it yourself: attempt . Why play with your money? The toys/experiences it can afford are way more fun. Chargebacks are more effort, and IIRC, weigh negatively on you as well. Can only do so many. I expe…

How do you make virtual cards?

Lots of banks have them these days. In the US there's also stuff like privacy.com (unaffiliated, not even in the US personally :p)

Last I used Revolut 2 years ago, they even had a "disposable" virtual card, meaning after 1 charge it's automatically deleted.

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Post by rglullis »

grayhatter wrote: post #301
rglullis wrote: post #287

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> Such places still exist, and are good. Oh, yes, that artisanal internet. So nice, too bad it serves only a minuscule fraction of the people of the internet. Everyone else just goes to Reddit and Discord.

Some might call that a feature.

Some people also love the caste system.

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Post by squigz »

b112 wrote: post #460
squigz wrote: post #444

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I don't think all artists are treating this tool as such an existential threat.

I don't think all artists are treating this tool as such an existential threat. You cannot find any group, where "all" is true in such context. There's always an element of outlier. That said, you're not really an artist if you direct someone else to paint. Imagine a scenario where you sit back, and ask someone to paint an oil painting for you. During the event, you sit in an easy chair, watch them with easel and bru…

One could say much the same thing about photographers, or digital artists. They don't use paint, or sculpt marble, so they're not real artists.

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Post by mandmandam »

fxtentacle wrote: post #449
sureIy wrote: post #356

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> proprietary file formats Gimp can't handle them?

For InDesign magazines with embedded images, for example, I'm not aware of any compatible 3rd party software

Here are some options which might help [0] (Bias: I love Affinity Publisher and despise Adobe).

0 - https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/225143-wha...

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Post by bravetraveler »

sensanaty wrote: post #474
maayank wrote: post #470

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How do you make virtual cards?

Lots of banks have them these days. In the US there's also stuff like privacy.com (unaffiliated, not even in the US personally :p) Last I used Revolut 2 years ago, they even had a "disposable" virtual card, meaning after 1 charge it's automatically deleted.

Aye, 'privacy.com' is who I go with. Would prefer a first-party solution like other countries/financial services.

It's a little counter-intuitive to introduce another party to improve privacy. I find it worthwhile for the pausable and vendor-locked cards.

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Post by ChocolateGod »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #330
gdulli wrote: post #81

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"Cancel culture" is just a term we started using to cope with seeing people we're sympathetic to being judged for their words or actions.

That's not true at all. You should read The Canceling of the American Mind (though get it from the library, because it's not really good enough to own imo). The authors very clearly lay out the evidence that there has in fact been an increase in the sort of online lynch mobs we call "cancel culture". It comes from both the left and the right, and the increase has been noticeable if you look at the data. People have a…

Even Obama, considered by some to be an icon of the left, has called out cancel culture.

We're starting to see the legal effects of people being fired for holding legal views.

Re: Adobe deletes Bluesky posts after backlash

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Post by _el1s7 »

hliyan wrote: post #368

The phenomenon at work here is: if product being produced by a profit-seeking enterprise can be rented instead of being sold, said enterprise will eventually find a way to do it, then over time, rather than a single bill, it will attempt to rent out individual aspects of the now product-turned-service, followed by cost cutting that degrades the default service level while introducing additional service levels for whi…

Single bill for modern software doesn't make sense economically anymore.

Do you want updates? You want new versions? New features? Support?

Single bill it's like buying an IPhone once and then you expect to get a new one for free each year.

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