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Re: Bored of It

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Post by thih9 »

layer8 wrote: post #355
thih9 wrote: post #70

> You know what I’m talking about, even though I’ve not mentioned it. Many comments here assume the "it" means AI. Is that certain though? As in: is there a line that without doubt would point to AI? In my view this text could just as well be about the iPhone (written 15 years ago and published today). Perhaps this makes "it" even more boring; i.e. that when the process ends with one "it", it starts again with a new…

“A decommissioned nuclear power station required to power it.” “Not to mention millions of gallons of water required to cool it.” Pretty sure that isn’t an iPhone. ;)

This is what I was looking for and I missed - thank you!

Re: Bored of It

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Post by martin82 »

gzer0 wrote: post #42
adamors wrote: post #36

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Having been in IT for close to 15 years now, a lot of good minds work in IT a lot of good minds don't. But I've encountered a lot of stupid (for lack of a better word) people in IT who were convinced they are good at _everything_ just because they grokked algorithms and data structures. Not sure it's a phenomenon unique to IT, but what DOGE is doing is exactly what I mean.

Can confirm, this isn't just an IT thing. Physicians are a prime example—people tend to put doctors on a pedestal, and some doctors start believing they know everything about everything, even when it's clearly outside their wheelhouse. Being smart in one area doesn’t automatically make you an expert in another, but it’s easy for everyone involved to forget that.

The worst thing is, most doctors aren't even smart in their own domain. They are nothing more but trained monkeys who follow a flow chart that has drug sales at the end.

Re: Bored of It

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unfamiliar wrote: post #95
thih9 wrote: post #70

> You know what I’m talking about, even though I’ve not mentioned it. Many comments here assume the "it" means AI. Is that certain though? As in: is there a line that without doubt would point to AI? In my view this text could just as well be about the iPhone (written 15 years ago and published today). Perhaps this makes "it" even more boring; i.e. that when the process ends with one "it", it starts again with a new…

Just like a psychological diagnosis is often based on proximity to a cluster of symptoms rather than specific ones that must be met, you can't point to one particular line that makes it AI. It is the combination of all of the sentences that aligns with our perception of AI.

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Re: Bored of It

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Post by genevra »

Today while staring at my strawberry plant I started wondering if the soil had enough nitrogen for it. 10 queries, some fluff learning, and an in depth discussion about the stoichiometric steps required to convert the nitrogen consumed by a single strawberry plant got me to some workable measurement of fertilizer I could add. I think anyone bored of it is using it for too much, and too often.

Re: Bored of It

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Post by casey2 »

My thoughts on AI come from a place far beyond the noise of the crowd. If you had even a glimpse of what I see, you'd find the whole subject terribly dull.

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Post by casey2 »

TimorousBestie wrote: post #55
jsheard wrote: post #41

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Normally I would agree that you can just choose not to engage with the [current thing], but AI is so pervasive that you will be confronted by the consequences of this technology whether you like it or not. These annoying hype cycles don't usually raise the internets noise floor permanently, or DDoS random sites while trying to strip mine their data, or break core assumptions about being able to trust what you see and…

My software working group has spent much of the quarter discussing whether or not it’s made us more productive. They still can’t decide, but I bet we’ve racked up 1000 coder-hours debating it. I don’t use it because our products have the potential to harm other people and I’m not personally comfortable assuming that risk. Nobody else seems particularly moved by that argument, however.

So you are at a similar level of productivity and have 1000s of hours of free time?

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Post by buttercraft »

zwnow wrote: post #151
sgarland wrote: post #146

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> …I was searching for the nature of evil and I now think I have come close to defining it. A lack of empathy. It’s the one characteristic that connects all the defendants, a genuine incapacity to feel with their fellow men. Evil, I think, is the absence of empathy. – Captain G. M. Gilbert, Psychologist at Nuremberg Trials

That implies there is evil, who's the judge on good vs evil?

Easy: evil lacks empathy. All it takes to not be evil is... empathy.

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Post by anthk »

eimrine wrote: post #52
anthk wrote: post #3

Garbage in/ garbage out is what will happen without human curated sources verified by experts on their field.

Your point seems to contradict with Nupedia vs Wikipedia history, that was a competition where the old-fashioned encyclopedia lost to the bazaar-inspired approach.

The Wikipedia has proper human sources.

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Post by pera »

BinRoo wrote: post #377
placardloop wrote: post #345

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It isn’t even close to being the greatest tool in human history. This type of misunderstanding and hyperbole is exactly why people are tired/bored/frustrated of it. The uncomfortable truth is that AI is the world’s greatest con man. The tools and hype around them have created an environment where AI is incredibly effective at fooling people into thinking it is knowledgeable and helpful, even when it isn’t. And the pe…

The human still needs to think, of course. But, I can get to my answer or my primary source using a tool faster than a typical search engine. That's a super power, when used right!

The jump in productivity we had with the world wide web and search engines was several orders of magnitude higher than what you have right now with LLMs, yet I don't remember a single person back in the 2000s calling Google "the greatest tool in human history".

Almost sixty years after ELIZA, chatbots seem to still produce a very strong emotional reaction to some folks.

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Post by zwnow »

WD-42 wrote: post #419
zwnow wrote: post #406

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I even contribute, by paying taxes. Weird leech

Because you want to or because you are too much of a coward not to? Something tells me you’d be face down in a ditch somewhere if the world actually reflected your ideal instead of the comfy one we live in where you get to take advantage of the “naive”.

Taxes in my country get automatically paid before I even see the money, so I dont rlly have a choice
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