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An image of an archeologist adventurer who wears a hat and uses a bullwhip

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Re: An image of an archeologist adventurer who wears a hat and uses a bullwhip

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Post by iamacyborg »

jks wrote: post #448
vjerancrnjak wrote: post #445

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it overfits on the whole internet then it’s like a search engine that returns really relevant results with some lossy side effect. Recent benchmark on unseen 2025 Math Olympiad shows none of the models can problem solve . They all accidentally or on purpose had prior solutions in the training set.

You probably mean the USAMO 2025 paper. They updated their comparison with Gemini 2.5 Pro, which did get a nontrivial score. That Gemini version was released five days after USAMO, so while it's not entirely impossible for the data to be in its training set, it would seem kind of unlikely. https://x.com/mbalunovic/status/1907436704790651166

I was noodling with Gemini 2.5 Pro a couple days ago and it was convinced Donald Trump didn’t win the 2024 election and that he conceded to Kamala Harris so I’m not entirely sure how much weight I’d put behind it.

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Post by theshrike79 »

burnished wrote: post #25

Oooh those guardrails make me angry. I get why they are there (dont poke the bear) but it doesn't make me overlook the self serving hypocrisy involved. Though I am also generally opposed to the notion of intellectual property whatsoever on the basis that it doesn't seem to serve its intended purpose and what good could be salvaged from its various systems can already be well represented with other existing legal conc…

It's not just the guardrails, but the ham-fisted implementation.

Grok is supposed to be "uncensored", but there are very specific words you just can't use when asking it to generate images. It'll just flat out refuse or give an error message during generation.

But, again, if you go in a roundabout way and avoid the specific terms you can still get what you want. So why bother?

Is it about not wanting bad PR or avoiding litigation?

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Post by kazinator »

djoldman wrote: post #332

I don't condone or endorse breaking any laws. That said, trademark laws like life of the author + 95 years are absolutely absurd. The ONLY reason to have any law prohibiting unlicensed copying of intangible property is to incentivize the creation of intangible property. The reasoning being that if you don't allow people to exclude 3rd party copying, then the primary party will assumedly not receive compensation for t…

New rule: you get to keep your belongings for 20 years and that's it. Then they are taken away. Every dollar you made twenty or more years ago, every asset you acquired, gone.

That oughtta be enough to incentivize people to work and build their wealth.

Anything more than that is unnecessary.

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Post by genewitch »

4gotunameagain wrote: post #462
djoldman wrote: post #332

I don't condone or endorse breaking any laws. That said, trademark laws like life of the author + 95 years are absolutely absurd. The ONLY reason to have any law prohibiting unlicensed copying of intangible property is to incentivize the creation of intangible property. The reasoning being that if you don't allow people to exclude 3rd party copying, then the primary party will assumedly not receive compensation for t…

It is not about trademark laws. It is about where laws apply. If you torrent a movie right now, you'll be fined in many advanced countries. But a huge corporation led by a sociopath scrapes the entire internet and builds a product with other people's work ? Totally fine.

Which huge corporation led by a sociopath? There's so many to choose from.

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Post by noduerme »

djoldman wrote: post #332

I don't condone or endorse breaking any laws. That said, trademark laws like life of the author + 95 years are absolutely absurd. The ONLY reason to have any law prohibiting unlicensed copying of intangible property is to incentivize the creation of intangible property. The reasoning being that if you don't allow people to exclude 3rd party copying, then the primary party will assumedly not receive compensation for t…

You're conflating trademark with copyright.

Regardless, it's not just copyright laws that are at issue here. This is reproducing human likenesses - like Harrison Ford's - and integrating them into new works.

So if I want to make an ad for a soap company, and I get an AI to reproduce a likeness of Harrison Ford, does that mean I can use that likeness in my soap commercials without paying him? I can imagine any court asking "how is this not simply laundering someone's likeness through a third party which claims to not have an image / filter / app / artist reproducing my client's likeness?"

All seemingly complicated scams come down to a very basic, obvious, even primitive grift. Someone somewhere in a regulatory capacity is either fooled or paid into accepting that no crime was committed. It's just that simple. This, however, is so glaring that even a child could understand the illegality of it. I'm looking forward to all of Hollywood joining the cause against the rampant abuse of IP by Silicon Valley. I think there are legal grounds here to force all of these models to be taken offline.

Additionally, "guardrails" that prevent 1:1 copies of film stills from being reprinted are clearly not only insufficient, they are evidence that the pirates in this case seek to obscure the nature of their piracy. They are the evidence that generative AI is not much more than a copyright laundering scheme, and the obsession with these guardrails is evidence of conspiracy, not some kind of public good.

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Post by lionkor »

I personally think Studio Ghibli, and by extension their artists and former artists, have created a beautiful art style. The fact that we call it Ghibli, when really, its the artists there (and former artists) is misleading.

The people leave, go to different studios, and make different art. This is not their only style, and Ghibli is not known to make many movies these days.

The only thing this is hurting, if anything, is Studio Ghibli, not the artists. Artists capable of drawing in this style can draw in any style.

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Post by noduerme »

genewitch wrote: post #476
4gotunameagain wrote: post #462

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is not about trademark laws. It is about where laws apply. If you torrent a movie right now, you'll be fined in many advanced countries. But a huge corporation led by a sociopath scrapes the entire internet and builds a product with other people's work ? Totally fine.

Which huge corporation led by a sociopath? There's so many to choose from.

The wickedest idea that social media run by sociopaths has implanted in the human psyche is the idea that anyone else would take advantage of immoral tactics if they had the means or could afford the payoffs.
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