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Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by maxglute »

lproven wrote: post #454

This sounded to me like a device I might want, but the price is offputting to me. $150 is not cheap device. It's nearly 10x the used price of the smartwatch I wearing right now. The CEO did a Reddit AMA: https://www.reddit.com/r/pebble/comments/1jea5cc/ama_with_er... I am surprised by his comment there: « Honestly 5 years seems pretty good for a $150 consumer gadget. » So, its creator feels that a $150 watch is cheap…

Yeah commodity fitness trackers with a few custom buttons would go a long way to scratch pebble itch. Make Casio F91W fitness tracker a thing.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by Andrex »

whs wrote: post #430
apparent wrote: post #48

I'm pleased the pricing is so low. I did some math and if they're making 10k of these (not clear if that's each or all together), there's not a ton of money to be made. Assuming $100 average profit, that's a $2M for 20k watches. Given the work opportunities that the founder and other employees have, that's not a lot of money for them to make in a year, and it comes with significant risk. Basically seems like this is…

I ordered my Pebble Time during February 2015 Kickstarter for $169. Today the Core Time 2 is $225 which is the exact same price adjusted for inflation. The DHL shipping though I remembered it was $25 and it is still $25 today

When you put it like that... goddamn inflation has been awful.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by sfilmeyer »

lproven wrote: post #454

This sounded to me like a device I might want, but the price is offputting to me. $150 is not cheap device. It's nearly 10x the used price of the smartwatch I wearing right now. The CEO did a Reddit AMA: https://www.reddit.com/r/pebble/comments/1jea5cc/ama_with_er... I am surprised by his comment there: « Honestly 5 years seems pretty good for a $150 consumer gadget. » So, its creator feels that a $150 watch is cheap…

I don't think "consumer gadget" comes across particularly negatively or dismissively, and don't see this playing out at all like the Ratner's case.

Also, it seems like you might be a bit anchored to the low end of the smartwatch price spectrum from your own preferences, but I don't think it's particularly expensive among major smartwatch brands. Apple has by far the biggest market share, but I also tried to piece together how it compared to other companies with leading market share according to this chart[0]. It's a couple years out of date, but from looking at more recent data I don't think the market leaders have changed all that much. I might have made some mistakes navigating the websites of the various brands to piece together the comparison.

1) Apple - $150 is cheaper than all their models 2) Samsung - cheaper than all but one model 3) Huawei - similar to their second cheapest 4) imoo - $20 more than their cheapest model 5) amazfit - the cheaper brand you already mentioned 6) Garmin - cheaper than all their models

You're already using the cheapest smartwatch brand in those top 6 brands, so while $150 might feel expensive to you it's actually on the cheaper end of major smartwatch brands.

As a side note, this was all a bit interesting to learn about as someone dedicated to my $15 casio dumb watch.

[0]https://www.statista.com/chart/15035/worldwide-smartwatch-sh...

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by noelrock »

Just a brief note to say: loved original Pebble, always a regret that my younger poorer self didn't buy one way back when, so bit the bullet straight away yesterday and am signed up for the first batch of the black Core 2 Duo in July.

Two features which I think it would be useful to give more prominence to especially as you move from pre-order stage to general sale stage:

Strap is replaceable in both models Both models count steps

Would be high priority things for me! Look forward to seeing how this develops and best of luck.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by nelblu »

A newbie to smartwatches question : How are RePebbleOS watches when it comes to privacy? Do they offer complete offline, manual data download/sync experience or do they require some type of Google or Apple crapware to work?

I am mainly considering buying one to track my heart rate, but I don't want my data to leave my watch unless I copy it myself. Any budget friendly recommendations?

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by GlennFarrant »

Andrex wrote: post #472
whs wrote: post #430

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I ordered my Pebble Time during February 2015 Kickstarter for $169. Today the Core Time 2 is $225 which is the exact same price adjusted for inflation. The DHL shipping though I remembered it was $25 and it is still $25 today

When you put it like that... goddamn inflation has been awful.

That "price rise" indicates an inflation rate of 2.9%. The average inflation rate for the last 50 years is more like 3.5%. So it totally depends on your perspective. If you've only lived through low-inflation times, then yeah 2.9% seems high.

I'm in my 50's and my reaction to the same information was "yeah, seems about right".

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by kmacdough »

nelblu wrote: post #475

A newbie to smartwatches question : How are RePebbleOS watches when it comes to privacy? Do they offer complete offline, manual data download/sync experience or do they require some type of Google or Apple crapware to work? I am mainly considering buying one to track my heart rate, but I don't want my data to leave my watch unless I copy it myself. Any budget friendly recommendations?

Vague question, as privacy means different things to different people, but its very hackable, so as long as you're running Android you should be able to make it work how you want.

By default it uses the Pebble App for sync. You can decide whether that meets your privacy needs or you want a custom app. Someone has probably shared how to do what you want.

See the other trending HN post for Apple compatibility (TL;DR it sucks because Apple makes it suck).

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by pidgeon_lover »

Can you use the new Pebble watches without an accompanying smartphone application? I've wanted to get a smartwatch, but have always been put off by the requirement of a stupid app to synchronise data with a recent smartphone to be able to use it. They have all the necessary hardware to record and process data on board... don't see why it should require an expensive Apple or Android every few years to keep using. My Timex from 2011 cost £35 and still works perfectly.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by bitsoda »

beeflet wrote: post #122
erohead wrote: post #3

I'll be hanging out here - happy to answer any questions you have!

What's the status of "small android phone" is it basically just a petition atm?

This is what I'm most interested in. My only hope at the moment is for Apple to revive the iPhone mini -- even if they only refresh it every 3-5 years! I'm so bummed I'll be 'forced' to upgrade from my 12 mini later this year for mostly camera and battery reasons, but oh how I wish an iPhone 17 mini was on the horizon.
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