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Re: Military grade sonic weapon is used against protesters in Serbia

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That's the exact same circumstances that lead to the development of guerilla warfare. I don't know how you'd go around creating a "highly visible gimmick" that has any lasting impact though.

Umbrellas in Hongkong come to mind.

that was more about shielding your face, non?

Re: Military grade sonic weapon is used against protesters in Serbia

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The report I read said it relied on bone conduction, so hearing protection wouldn't do a whole lot. Only things that can attenuate low frequency sounds before it gets to the ear. So muff style headphones might work, or mass

Ear muffs aren’t going to do much against 160dB

to put a finer point on it: decibels are logarithmic, e.g. a tenfold increase.

as in, an increase of 10 decibels corresponds to a tenfold increase in sound intensity.

this means 160dB is a lot. a loooooooooooot

Re: Military grade sonic weapon is used against protesters in Serbia

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post #82

Is there any counter measure for this? Hardcore hearing protection? Noise cancelling headphones? Handheld sound insulation "shield"?

FPV drone blowing up the LRAD. Total cost below $1000.

if you're bringing FPV drones you're well past the point of protesting

Re: Military grade sonic weapon is used against protesters in Serbia

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Serbia is one of the Russian-controlled Governments, along with Hungary and Georgia; these are the countries where we expect to see such attacks made to suppress protest. (USA is not controlled, any more than say China is controlled, but is an authoritarian regime (so no real elections), so there's a shared world view, and here also I would expect to see much the same.)

It is not Russia-controlled but it has a long history of relationship with Russia: for example, Russian Empire entered WW1 to protect Serbia.

the Russians supported Serbia in the 90s as well, albeit in a more limited fashion since the wall just came down and things were pretty raw and hectic in the post-USSR world.

Re: Military grade sonic weapon is used against protesters in Serbia

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post #405

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Once there's violence targeting you, the solution is to bring real weapons and resolve it using ordinary military tactics, that is, you kill the operator.

You're really up and down these comments advocating the start of another war in the Balkans, aren't you? How did that work out last time, and the time before that?

Think of it like this instead: if those who run countries or otherwise have power over people know that they if they attack people risk a proper response, then all such people who are sensible will refrain from violence.

If things get too out of hand there's always the possibility of calling an election.

Re: Military grade sonic weapon is used against protesters in Serbia

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"whataboutism" is pernicious, widespread, and devastating to civil society.

Precedent if I like it, whataboutisn otherwise.

Neither precedent nor whataboutism are a good way to run a multipolar world. Both include literally all of the worst of humanity throughout history.

Even though we haven't evolved much since then, we don't have to be savages: Consensus of the majority of nations is a more appropriate (albeit not perfect) way to resolve multipolar issues.

Re: Military grade sonic weapon is used against protesters in Serbia

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post #375

I would never expect Tech Ingredients' video "DEFEATING LRAD" to become relevant on European soil. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXKTBQBugIA

i have a feeling it will be relevant on all continents before 2100

the world we're moving to is not one that is friendly to personal liberties

Re: Military grade sonic weapon is used against protesters in Serbia

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As I understand, you can override the panic, but lose your hearing.

At least in the videos I saw, it didn’t look that loud. People were more confused and looking for the source of the sound while trying to move away, not holding their ears like they were literally hurt by the noise.

it's loud enough to be carried though your bones; covering your ears doesn't help.

it's also very disorienting

Re: Military grade sonic weapon is used against protesters in Serbia

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post #360

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It is impossible for Russia to "lose" in Serbia. The vast majority of Serbs support Russia, and are pissed at their government for not supporting it enough.

That's a blatant lie. We are protesting because 15 people died in Novi Sad because of corruption, 4 months ago. We want justice.

That's exactly what I'm saying. These protests aren't what the OP makes them out to be, completely orthogonal to Russia.

Re: Military grade sonic weapon is used against protesters in Serbia

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Once there's violence targeting you, the solution is to bring real weapons and resolve it using ordinary military tactics, that is, you kill the operator.

I fully support targeted use of violence against oppressors and aggressors but it needs to be said that materialized (as opposed to threatened/implied) violence only works if you are able to deliver sufficient amounts of it. Up until that point you need to paint yourself as the victim (the just/right/good side) to get more support to deliver more violence later what the time comes to materialize it. Premature materia…

Yes, but you probably only need something like a 1000 men to get something like Mariupol. That of course does require all of them to be ridiculously resilient, but I think you can learn that.x
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