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Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not sure if OpenAI will be the winner despite this investment. Currently, I see various DeepSeek AI models as offering much more bang for the buck at a vastly cheaper cost for small tasks, but not yet for large context tasks.

when did the government EVER go for anything taking cost into consideration? :)

This is not a government funded project.

Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

#473

It seems early for this sort of move. This is also a huge spin on the whole thing that could throw a lot of people off. Is there any planned future partnerships? Stargate implies something about movies and astronomy. Movies in particular have a lot of military influence, but not always. So, what's the play? Help mankind or go after mankind? Also, can I opt-out right now?

Oracle / Texans running it.. they don't care what you think about it

My questions were rethorical. I'm not thinking about who runs things.

I expect those who really understand those questions to get my point.

Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

#474

SoftBank isn't a US entity, right? Aside from their risk tolerance, that seems like an odd bedfellow for a national US initiative...

It doesn't seem to be a US initiative.

I'm sure they're getting tax credits for investment (none of the articles I can find actually detail the US gov involvement) but the project is mostly just a few multinationals setting up a datacenter where their customers are.

Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

#475

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe they will invest in nuclear reactors. Data center, AI and nuclear power stations. Three advanced technologies, that's pretty good.

I think this is right- data centers powered by fission reactors. Something like Oklo ( https://oklo.com ) makes sense.

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Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

#476

Wasn’t this announced months ago? I feel like it was. https://www.techradar.com/pro/could-amd-be-the-key-to-micros...

Interesting that 6 months ago, Microsoft was attached but now they're missing from today's announcement.

Scroll down:

> Other partners in the project include Microsoft, investor MGX and the chipmakers Arm and NVIDIA, according to separate statements by Oracle and OpenAI.

Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

#477
post #192

The fallout is going to be insane when the AI bubble pops.

The folks who listen to you and don't see the fact that we are entering a weak singularity deserve to be destitute when this is all over.

“Weak singularity” meaning what?

Technology advancing more quickly year over year?

That’s a crazy notion and I’ll be sure everyone knows.

Also, what a wild thing to say. “People like you deserve to live in poverty because you don’t think we live in a sci-fi world.”

Calm down, dude.

Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

#478

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To be fair, it’s not easy to monetize the moon program into profitability. This has a far better shot of sustaining profitability.

why do they need profitability? they already made $500B

They didn’t make $500b?

Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

#479

Where are they getting the $500B? Softbank's market cap is 84b and their entire vision fund is only $100b, Oracle only has $11b cash on hand, OpenAI's only raised $17b total...

there doesn't appear to be any timeline announced here. the article says the "initial investment" is expected to be $100bn, but even that doesn't mean $100bn this year. if this is part of softbank's existing plan to invest $100bn in ai over the next four years, then all that's being announced here is that Sama and Larry Ellison wanted to stand on a stage beside trump and remind people about it.

The literal first sentence of the announcement is:

> The Stargate Project is a new company which intends to invest $500 billion over the next four years

Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

#480
post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How else do you think Trump is going to bring back all the coal jobs? SV is going to help burn down the planet and is giddy over the prospect.

It's just bootstrapping. AGI will solve it.

You forgot the /s... hopefully.
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