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Israel, Hamas reach ceasefire deal to end 15 months of war in Gaza
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Re: Israel, Hamas reach ceasefire deal to end 15 months of war in Gaza
#472How many square kilometers of land does Israel gain this time?
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This is essentially how Turkiye continues to describe the Armenian Genocide to this day. "A) there was a war going on, people sometimes die in wars whoops it's tragic" and "B) the situation is very complex and nuanced and any narrative but our chosen one is too simplistic". It sounds pretty familiar doesn't it? https://www.mfa.gov.tr/the-armenian-allegation-of-genocide-t...
Erdogan is a war criminal too. And I’m sure the ones before him were not much more enlightened about this issue. I wonder what Ataturk thought about the Armenian genocide. I will google that to get educated on what he thought because he is about the only leader in Turkey’s history including Ottoman history that deserves respect.
Re: Israel, Hamas reach ceasefire deal to end 15 months of war in Gaza
#474Everything else aside, this is an absolutely fantastic development and I really hope the ceasefire holds and all hostages are released. I just fear this will cause western media and politicians to and declare the crisis to be over (after it had began on Oct. 7, of course absolutely out of the blue and without any context...) and go back to pretending everything is back to normal. Never mind that Gaza is still in ruin…
> I also found Trump's signalling in the whole issue odd. His base and his cabinet is full of the most hard-line pro-israel figures imaginable, but then he goes forward and quotes Jeffrey Sachs and ostensibly pressures Netanyahu into accepting the ceasefire. Trump just wanted a deal - he loves being the "deal guy". Frankly, I'm shocked he didn't push Bibi into waiting until after the inauguration. Guess he felt like…
Perhaps it speaks to Biden's administration and its interest in the conflict that Trump can achieve this now where Biden couldn't a couple months ago.
Re: Israel, Hamas reach ceasefire deal to end 15 months of war in Gaza
#475Hamas was offered a ceasefire under exactly the same terms in May, and refused it. Since then: * Ismail Haniyeh, the leader of the Hamas political wing, was killed in Tehran * Yahyah Sinwar, the leader of the Al-Qassam Brigades, was killed in Gaza * Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Lebanese Hezbollah, was killed in Beirut * Hashem Safieddine, Nasrallah's successor, was killed a week later * Large swathes of Hezbollah'…
Hamas accepted the deal back in May, but then Netanyahu refused to sign the deal, and revised it into a form that was no longer acceptable.
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#476Earlier quoted context omitted.
While this is a good development. Everything in this part of the world is on a rinse snd repeat cycle ever since the Assyrians and the Babylonians - it hasn't changed much except maybe its actually a little more humane then it was in the past (which says something). Sorry for the cynical take but this just does a temporary stop.
The conflicts with the Assyrians, Babylonians, and Hittites came down to geopolitical factors that don't exist anymore. Mostly, the Levant separated the empires of Mesopotamia and Anatolia from Egypt. The numerous battles that happened at Meggido occurred because that was a chokepoint of the Way of Horus, the principal land trade route from Egypt specifically and Africa generally to the rest of the world. Besides tra…
Thank you for providing an educated response to the exhausting "ancient conflict" discourse
Re: Israel, Hamas reach ceasefire deal to end 15 months of war in Gaza
#477Everything else aside, this is an absolutely fantastic development and I really hope the ceasefire holds and all hostages are released. I just fear this will cause western media and politicians to and declare the crisis to be over (after it had began on Oct. 7, of course absolutely out of the blue and without any context...) and go back to pretending everything is back to normal. Never mind that Gaza is still in ruin…
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#478Earlier quoted context omitted.
The difference being that the new manpower has zero experience, is mostly kids and has no leadership. They reverted from a terrorist army, to an unorganized guerilla
Sure, but they are at least motivated; anyone would be after witnessing their family, friends, or neighbors being wiped out by “precision” bombing.
No matter how motivated they are, without weapon and training they pose much less risk than an army
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#479Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Fair" is a funny word to choose. One side is fighting with salvaged weapons and the other has the backing of the strongest militaries in the world. One side isn't allowed air support. One side isn't allowed food, water or even concrete. One side isn't even allowed to flee. So "fair" is not the word I would use. "Moral" isn't one I would use either given that Israel does not have the right as a belligerent occupier t…
The people deliberately hiding behind the babies were armed.
What about the clearly marked press or World Central Kitchen vehicles?
https://apnews.com/article/lebanon-israel-hezbollah-journali....
https://wck.org/news/gaza-team-update
Or what about when the non Hamas journalist Wael Dahdouh left his house and they bombed his family (including children) while he was out of the house?
https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-journalist-kille...
Was Dahdouh hiding behind his children? While he was live on camera in a different part of the city?
Or how about the fact that in 2009 the Goldstone Report credibly found evidence of the IDF using Palestinians as human shields? By what logic would Hamas keep using babies as human shields when Israel has proven they will shoot through the babies?
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#480Earlier quoted context omitted.
What is different from Hamas right to exist compared to the IDF or Likud? Hamas certainly has less blood on their hands!
>IDF or Likud The IDF and Likud does not have a policy of attacking civilians to achieve political or war goals. They likely have some deranged and radicalized commanders who do this anyway, but it's not the organizational policy.
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