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Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Post by BornInTheUSSR »

sky2224 wrote: post #397
modeless wrote: post #383

https://aistudio.google.com/live is by far the coolest thing here. You can just go there and share your screen or camera and have a running live voice conversation with Gemini about anything you're looking at. As much as you want, for free. I just tried having it teach me how to use Blender. It seems like it could actually be super helpful for beginners, as it has decent knowledge of the toolbars and keyboard shortcu…

THIS is the thing I'm excited for with AI. I'm someone that becomes about 5x more productive when I have a person watching or just checking in on me (even if they're just hovering there). Having AI to basically be that "parent" to kick me into gear would be so helpful. 90% of the time my problems are because I need someone to help keep the gears turning for me, but there isn't always someone available. This has the p…

Shameless plug, I'm working on something like this https://myaipal.kit.com/prerelease

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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menaerus wrote: post #400
whimsicalism wrote: post #301

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more like ~$16k for 16 3090s. AMD chips can also run these models. The parts are expensive but there is a competitive market in processors that can do LLM inference. Less so in training.

> more like ~$16k for 16 3090s I don't know where did you get that price from but 1x RTX 3090 is $1,900. 16x is ~$30,000. > The parts are expensive Now that we invested ~$30k in GPUs, we only need to find a motherboard that can accommodate 16x pcie4 x16 GPUs, right? And we also need a CPU that can drive that many pcie4 x16 lanes? Well, none of them exist, not even in the server parts sector let alone client commodity…

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Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Post by cryptozeus »

modeless wrote: post #383

https://aistudio.google.com/live is by far the coolest thing here. You can just go there and share your screen or camera and have a running live voice conversation with Gemini about anything you're looking at. As much as you want, for free. I just tried having it teach me how to use Blender. It seems like it could actually be super helpful for beginners, as it has decent knowledge of the toolbars and keyboard shortcu…

This comment is better than entire ad google just showed. Who is still pointing at the building with camera and asking what is this building?

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Post by fnordpiglet »

nolist_policy wrote: post #460
tbruckner wrote: post #454

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This is news to me. Any good examples of this outside of the above?

Vision language models are blind (192 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40926734

On the other hand if I take pictures of circuits, boards, electronic components, etc GPT4o is pretty reliably able to explain the me the pinouts, the board layouts, reference material in the data sheets, and provide pretty reasonable advice about how to use it (I.e., where to put resistors and why, what pins to use for the component on an esp32, etc). As a beginner in electronics this is fabulously helpful. Its ability to pass vision tests seems like a pretty dumb utility metric when most people judge utility by how useful things are.

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Post by robotresearcher »

aithrowawaycomm wrote: post #156
ramoz wrote: post #93

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Need a general term for autonomous intelligent decision making.

No, we need a scientific understanding of autonomous intelligent decision-making. The problem with “agentic AI” is the same old “Artificial Intelligence, Natural Stupidity” problem: we have no clue what “reasoning” or “intelligence” or “autonomous” actually means in animals, and trying to apply these terms to AI without understanding them (or inventing a new term without nailing down the underlying concept) is doomed…

They don’t mean anything precise, and don’t need to. They describe a bag of behaviors with overlapping properties that we observe animals/people doing.

‘Intelligent’ is exactly as precise as ‘funny’ or ‘interesting’. It’s a label for a cluster of observations of another agent’s behavior. It entails almost nothing about how those behaviors are achieved.

This is of course only an opinion, but it’s my professional opinion after thirty five years in the AI business.

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Post by ducttapecrown »

weatherlite wrote: post #394

Google is on fire lately, stock went up considerably in the last few days and rightly so; besides the usual cash cows (search, youtube) they made huge progress with GCP, Gemini and quite possibly Waymo. They have a fantastic momentum imo.

And quantum computing! They found a way to make error decrease with number of qubits.

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Post by huijzer »

meiraleal wrote: post #212
huijzer wrote: post #99

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Relatedly, I start to think more and more the AI is great for mediocre stuff. If you just need to do the 1000th website, it can do that. Do you want to build a new framework? Then there will probably be less many useful suggestions. (Still not useless though. I do like it a lot for refactoring while building xrcf.) EDIT: One reason that lead me to think it's better for mediocre stuff was seeing the Sora model generat…

We got to the point that AI isn't great because it is not like a Tarantino movie. What a time to be alive.

We got to the point that AI CEOs pretend AI can make a Tarantino movie and get away with it.

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Post by s3p »

This might be a dumb thought, but the naming of this model naturally suggests we have a Pro model coming out soon. Similar to Claude 3.5 Sonnet, where they never mentioned the Opus model afterward, does anyone think this is all we will see from Google in terms of the 2.0 model family? Does anyone think there will be some 2.0 Pro model that will blow this out of the water? The naming makes it seem so.

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Post by icelancer »

modeless wrote: post #383

https://aistudio.google.com/live is by far the coolest thing here. You can just go there and share your screen or camera and have a running live voice conversation with Gemini about anything you're looking at. As much as you want, for free. I just tried having it teach me how to use Blender. It seems like it could actually be super helpful for beginners, as it has decent knowledge of the toolbars and keyboard shortcu…

I tried this, shared a terminal, asked it to talk about it, and it guessed that it was Google Chrome with some webUI stuff. Immediately closed the window and bailed.
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