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Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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Re: Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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Post by seiferteric »

__alias wrote: post #468

I just bought a 32 inch monitor and can't stand it. 27 inch is the sweet spot for me. The further through my career the more i've effective with smaller screen space and I am. I actually prefer working on my 16 mbp nowadays.

I got a 4k 32" IPS monitor years ago and was never really happy with it for similar reasons. Scaling never felt right, 2x is like basically using 1080p and fractional never looked good or had issues (in linux). Now I have a giant curved samsung display which is like two 1440p monitors side by side. There is a new version that is like two 27" 4k monitors side by side and I am just worried I would have the same issue I had before... I kind like being able to see my pixels :)

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Post by bloomingeek »

arkh wrote: post #407
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FWIW, it was the same (even at the enterprise level). We had a commodity (local cloud) computing Dell infra in the mid 2010s and were constantly replacing/returning “simple stuff” (fans, support flanges, memory, NICs). “Dude, you’re gettn’ a Dell” became—-nope, never again.

I feel like there are not good quality hardware company nowadays. Dell: the land of motherboard dying and dog shit trackpads. Asus: dead soldered RAM. Most BIOS: too long to boot, it's fucking 2024 what is your BIOS doing it needs more than 2s to boot? It was taking the same time to boot 30 years ago. Every mouse: double click problem due to wrong use of the actuators. And every hardware company has to try to cram so…

I miss the laptops from Toshiba. Decent price and very reliable, easy to upgrade.

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Post by kraftman »

jamalaramala wrote: post #35

The biggest problem I see is ergonomics. The proper monitor height is when the top third of the screen is at or slightly below your eye level when seated or standing upright. This positioning helps prevent neck strain and allows for a comfortable viewing angle. The top third of a large TV will be much higher than that, which will cause long term discomfort. That's why large monitors have much wider aspect than TVs.

Maybe if you put what your working on at the top of the screen and only looked at that one thing it would be a problem, but realistically you use a bigger screen the same way you'd use a bigger desk: you dont put what you're working on out of reach, you just have more room for the tools for what you're working on.

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Post by kraftman »

rho4 wrote: post #447

Reposting my experience from my comment on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcmonitors/comments/163yjj8/c... I have been using a 55" 8K QE55QN700BT ($1400) at home since Jan. 2023 and a 55" 8K QE55QN700C ($1100 on sale) at the office since August 2023. I can tell you that I will never go back, but there is definitely room for improvement. Biggest negative: Sitting close (~12"), the far areas are probably at >45…

I saw your reddit comment, but I couldn't find the source for the TCL 65 inch? For me im tempted to go from 43" 4k to 55" 8k, my only concern is the edges being too far away unless its curved.

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Post by abecedarius »

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I had the Dell 8k monitor you mentioned, the picture quality was great but it died after a few years not long after the warranty expired (a gut punch at the purchase price) and they said too bad so sad... ok that's fine but I will never buy another Dell product again. It was released too early to have proper displayport support and I had to use a custom nvidia-driver X11 config to make it mostly work as two monitors.…

You used to have a 32" 8K monitor and when it died you went for a 43" 4K monitor instead? Isn't that a massive difference in pixel density?

Can't answer for them, but: lots of us are older and need glasses. To really benefit from your preferred resolution would mean tiny fonts that give me eyestrain. It makes sense for a phone or tablet held close up; for a monitor a meter away it mainly just increases the expense at every level (including video ram and bandwidth). OTOH more area is worth spending more on.

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Post by bluGill »

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If you have it setup right you can flip to the other desktop quick, see what you want and flip fast. I haven't seen a good virtual desktop implementation since around 1998 though, and have given up.

What makes for a good or bad virtual desktop implementation?

Easy to switch, easy to know what you have on each one. Easy to move windows to different desktops. I go years between trying them and always get frustrated by how poorly they work, but it has been so long since my last attempt that I don't remember exactly what annoyed me last time I tried.

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Post by PMunch »

dllu wrote: post #174

Author here, ask me anything! Apart from programming, one of the motivations for getting the 8K display is to look at lidar point clouds. For example the desktop background in my post is a lidar map of Bernal Hill in San Francisco, which I've here downsampled to only 13006 x 7991 px for your convenience [1]. Admittedly, when I bought it at first, I didn't realize there would be so many random issues, as manufacturers…

I've recently swapped out my dumb TV with a smart TV. The choice to go smart after clinging on to my dumb TV + old-school Chromecast was only motivated by advances in display tech. In retrospect the smart TV is a considerably worse experience UX-wise than the dumb TV + Chromecast. The built-in Chromecast in the new TV requires the TV to be logged into accounts for all the "apps" that the TV has. I can no longer just cast something from any device connected to my network and have it "just work" like it did before.

I know in this case you're working with HDMI and hopefully have managed to set the TV up to just display an HDMI output on bootup, but did you run into any of these infuriating "smart" TV things?

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Post by wruza »

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The general advice is to have top of monitor at eye level, but it's been wrong advice for me personally. I now put the middle of the monitor at eye level. Keeps my head up and posture better. Leaning back instead of stooping.

The general advice provided to me, and relayed by me is eyes centered @ 2/3th of the screen. The best advice received and relayed by me regarding posture might surprise you. If you struggle with posture, stop caring about what other people might think about your posture. Changing/Tweaking posture all the time might look bad, but it also tends to mitigate the effects of being frozen in bad posture(!) The health impact…

Also use a chair with at least “multi block” (changes seat/back angle when swaying).

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Post by geocrasher »

cm2187 wrote: post #390
dllu wrote: post #174

Author here, ask me anything! Apart from programming, one of the motivations for getting the 8K display is to look at lidar point clouds. For example the desktop background in my post is a lidar map of Bernal Hill in San Francisco, which I've here downsampled to only 13006 x 7991 px for your convenience [1]. Admittedly, when I bought it at first, I didn't realize there would be so many random issues, as manufacturers…

I am using a 43 inch 4k monitor so I am allin on big screen real estate. But I find that even with a quarter of your screen area, I struggle to read the corners of the screen, the bottom is often obstructed by whatever is lying on my desk, and I had to make the mouse cursor bigger as I kept losing it. I doubt that an even bigger screen would be practical. I do have two 43in monitors side by side but the other one is…

I also have a 43" 4K monitor, and I find myself being in the same position as you. The left/right edges are difficult to see. I don't have the issue with the mouse, but I also doubt whether a larger screen would be useful to me. As it is there's a corner that gets unused because it's just out of "eye shot" if that's a phrase. It is now, I guess :D
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