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Post by Tagbert »

wongarsu wrote: post #248
rgbrgb wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Leaves me wondering how many of these Apple actually sell I think we can check since they're public. Looks like 5-8 million per quarter [0]. Approx 10% of their computer sales [1]. [0]: https://www.statista.com/statistics/263444/sales-of-apple-ma... [1]: https://www.cultofmac.com/news/macbooks-make-up-a-whopping-7...

Compared to 43% MacBook Pro, 34% MacBook Air, 9% Mac Pro, 3% Mac mini, 1% Mac Studio, as per the second link. So these are their most popular desktop, but by a slim margin and far behind the laptop sales

Note that those are revenue figures, not unit sales. That is why the Mac Pro comes out so high. the unit cost is so much higher that even with low volumes, the revenue is noticeable.

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Post by jxdxbx »

jfoster wrote: post #76

I could never justify getting an iMac. All the downsides of a laptop & desktop in one; not upgradeable and not portable. Leaves me wondering how many of these Apple actually sell. A Mac Mini with a separate screen feels like it makes far more sense.

For a long time the best Apple display you could get was in the iMacs. An iMac with nothing used with it besides a wireless keyboard and mouse, where you can even hide the ethernet port in the power brick, makes for a nice clean desk.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by runjake »

jfoster wrote: post #76

I could never justify getting an iMac. All the downsides of a laptop & desktop in one; not upgradeable and not portable. Leaves me wondering how many of these Apple actually sell. A Mac Mini with a separate screen feels like it makes far more sense.

Since none of the options there are tangibly more upgradeable than the other, you can reduce your point to "The iMac is not portable."

I bet that iMac M4 sales meet their target, which is probably on par with the iMac M1 sales. And those were apparently good enough that they finally released an updated model.

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Post by dllu »

jjcm wrote: post #448

Since this thread seems to be about niche asks for pro users, despite the product being targeted towards casual users who want an easy out of the box experience, I'll add my own to the mix. I'd love a bigger/better screen on these, specifically an ultrawide variety. An iMac Pro with an 8k ultrawide would be a near-instant purchase for me. I find the ultrawide form factor so good for productivity. I love the apple "it…

Using a large 8K display for productivity is underrated. I wrote a blog post about my experience: https://daniel.lawrence.lu/blog/y2023m12d15/

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Post by brailsafe »

lomase wrote: post #388
askafriend wrote: post #262

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I replace my computers before I ever feel a need to upgrade them. Computers are fast and performant for a long time now (4+ years, especially for non-professional use). And as someone who works with computers all day long, I never ever want to open one up unless I build one from scratch and want a personal project.

What about the screen?

What about the screen? Although I do have an external display, I haven't found a compelling replacement in the 10 years it's been going.

That said, the 24" iMac screen is not in the slightest bit compelling to me

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by phillco »

jxdxbx wrote: post #465

I’ve been using an M1 iMac as my main home computer (with 16 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD) and have zero reason to upgrade. I’ve loved it. Exactly what I need, though I offload a lot of home server type tasks to a big tower PC, including messing with local AI stuff. BUT a new hockey puck Mac mini that shared a screen with my gaming PC would be a nice space-saver. If only the studio display could switch inputs—using macOS on a cu…

There are Thunderbolt 4 KVMs now (can't speak to any myself, but they exist!). DSC will give you quite a bit of spare bandwidth with the Studio Display.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by yunohn »

> the new iMac is up to 1.7x faster than iMac with M1

This seems like a much lower than expected speed bump for M1 to M4? Would’ve been nice to see something more for something designed to be non-upgradeable.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by insane_dreamer »

mmastrac wrote: post #10

If 32GB is the max, why not just make that the one and only model and get rid of this weird segmentation. That's a ridiculously low minimum and only just barely adequate. 8GB was practically criminal. Or -- and I know this is crazy -- slottable RAM on a device that is designed for things other than portability. Wild, I know.

The vast majority of HN users are not the target customer for the iMac

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by Tagbert »

mhh__ wrote: post #184
jfoster wrote: post #76

I could never justify getting an iMac. All the downsides of a laptop & desktop in one; not upgradeable and not portable. Leaves me wondering how many of these Apple actually sell. A Mac Mini with a separate screen feels like it makes far more sense.

But just think of the satisfaction you'll have at your computer being tiny in the dimension you can't actually perceive when using it!

Most computers are part of a 3D space where you can occupy more than just the frontal view. You will notice the screen thinness from other angles. it's not the most important aspect but it a nice enhancement. This are often used in environments where they are seen from other angles like homes, front desks, schools.

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Post by space_oddity »

jfoster wrote: post #76

I could never justify getting an iMac. All the downsides of a laptop & desktop in one; not upgradeable and not portable. Leaves me wondering how many of these Apple actually sell. A Mac Mini with a separate screen feels like it makes far more sense.

It suits users who prioritize a clean setup, minimal cable clutter, and don’t need the flexibility to upgrade components down the line.
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