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Re: CockroachDB license change

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Post by mcint »

maxloh wrote: post #467
Spivak wrote: post #406

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And like clockwork too. 1. Company builds cool OSS and releases it to the world. 2. The product becomes stable, mature, and users are happy with its feature set. Development slows down. 3. Company starts having to make money so they relicense future code. 4. A few large users of the software (that company was hoping for $$$ from) realize that since it's mature and stable it's massively lower cost to just maintain the…

Any real world example for this?

Search keyword is "relicense", and especially "BSL" or "Cloud license".

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

Redis, rhymes with this. Redis Labs, which captures the smallest sliver of the value OSS Redis provides, is valued at $2 B, with 2023 revenue of $151 M.

MongoDB, aka AWS "DocumentDB" (Microsoft/Azure Cosmos DB seems to have a different lineage). Mongo had $458 M in revenue Q4 2023 [1].

[1]: https://www.businessinsider.com/redis-labs-ceo-ipo-2-billion...

[2]: https://investors.mongodb.com/news-releases/news-release-det...

Re: CockroachDB license change

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Post by eikenberry »

Conan_Kudo wrote: post #427
eikenberry wrote: post #413

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If they don't that is something new. Do you know when that started (or rather, stopped)?

This stopped a long time ago. Many older GNU projects still have them, but newer ones are not required to have them. Some have even made their usage optional. An example of a project making it optional is GCC itself: https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2021-June/236182.html

That's great news! I've always been a big supporter of the FSF and that they stopped this toxic practice it awesome!

Re: CockroachDB license change

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Post by spion »

lucianbr wrote: post #356
spion wrote: post #346

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Was he though? If we didn't have GPL perhaps at least our software and data would've still been on our computers instead of a privately owned cloud...

Blaming Stallman for that is some olympic-level mental gymnastics.

Not really blaming, more like wondering how things would turn out.

Probably would only delay the move to the cloud a little bit, and perhaps make AI less capable.

Re: CockroachDB license change

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Post by darkstar_16 »

sakjur wrote: post #93
michaelt wrote: post #80

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In the closed source world it's common enough that free trials will be something along the lines of "we give you a license key tied to your name, and every time you start the software it calls into our license server to validate the license key" It's bad, but it's not unusual if you use closed-source software.

I really hope they’re more lenient than that. Having a database go offline because their telemetry servers are down, slow, or unreachable seems inconvenient.

I can't find it now but I think I read words to the effect that performance is degraded if one isn't using the correct license or something, even for v23.x versions.

Re: CockroachDB license change

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Post by darkstar_16 »

WuxiFingerHold wrote: post #287

It's a surprising and very welcome change. Most will benefit. If you have more than $10M revenue, why on earth would you run the limited open core version of CochroachDB just to save some $1K-$10K (which is about the enterprise license cost). The open core version has limitations you don't want to miss esp. reg. backup and restore, encryption, follower reads. Now all those features are available for free if you're sm…

That is not what the license costs even for relatively small deployments.

Re: CockroachDB license change

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Post by mushi »

mcint wrote: post #471
maxloh wrote: post #467

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Any real world example for this?

Search keyword is "relicense", and especially "BSL" or "Cloud license". https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... Redis, rhymes with this. Redis Labs, which captures the smallest sliver of the value OSS Redis provides, is valued at $2 B, with 2023 revenue of $151 M. MongoDB, aka AWS "DocumentDB" (Microsoft/Azure Cosmos DB seems to have a different lineage). Mongo had $458 M in revenue Q4 2023 [1…

> aka AWS “DocumentDB”

Nope, just the same API, completely unrelated codebase.

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