Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Susan Wojcicki has died

twitter.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

471–480 of 523 posts

Re: Susan Wojcicki has died

#471

Post by fngjdflmdflg »

quonn wrote: post #220
surgical_fire wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh lol. I thought he was dead. The point still stands

The point doesn‘t stand, because you made a claim about what people supposedly said or didn’t say after Chomsky passed away. And he didn‘t even pass.

It does, because people thought he died and commented about what he will be remembered for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40720876 - We Remember Noam Chomsky, the Intellectual and Moral Giant

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40721208 - Linguist and philosopher Noam Chomsky dies at age 95

Re: Susan Wojcicki has died

#472

Post by hnburnsy »

ghaff wrote: post #250
ethbr1 wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Younger folks forget that YouTube launched (2005) a few years before both the iPhone launched and Netflix pivoted to streaming (2007). In that weird era, (a) average home Internet connections became fast enough to support streaming video (with a healthy adoption growth rate), (b) the most widely deployed home recording device was likely still the VCR (digitizing analog video from cable to burn to DVD was a pain), (c)…

And Cisco didn't acquire Flip until 2009. Really most of the content that YouTube had available was material recorded off of broadcast/cable which was mostly not available otherwise unless you had recorded it or gotten it off a torrent.

Flip has a special place in my heart, right next to my memories of my Diamond Rio MP3 player.

Re: Susan Wojcicki has died

#473

Post by itsoktocry »

lasc4r wrote: post #358
tourmalinetaco wrote: post #336

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your idea of fascism must be rather tame, considering YouTube’s active censorship of anything even slightly right-of-center.

It hardly needs to be violently racist or whatever conception you have in your mind to be fascist propaganda. Rather the opposite if you take a minute to consider what makes for effective propaganda.

You sound radicalized.

What do you watch? Sounds like we need to ban it.

Re: Susan Wojcicki has died

#474

Post by least »

msadirna wrote: post #462
least wrote: post #456

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm not pirating media people put on YouTube. When you upload content to YouTube, you are generally taking unlicensed (or provisionally legal derivative content) and sublicensing it to YouTube for distribution and monetization. You can argue that I'm pirating Google's copy of the content, but I'm not short-changing the original uploader by refusing Google's ads. I'm exclusively ensuring that Google's business model…

> If they didn't deserve the content, then people wouldn't upload their content to Youtube. It is every creator's prerogative to choose how they distribute their content and there's a reason many do so on Youtube. ...and the reason is: they were the first. Now they are so huge that you can't go past them. If you want to have your video seen, you HAVE to go to YouTube. It's not an argument for them. It's just a quasi…

> ...and the reason is: they were the first. Now they are so huge that you can't go past them. If you want to have your video seen, you HAVE to go to YouTube.

I think you're understanding the value in the platform itself, then. It is pretty trivial for someone to share their video online but it's extremely difficult to get it to propagate.

> There is no real choice.

There is kind of a choice. You already added the primary condition for uploading it to Youtube and that condition isn't something that matters to everyone for everything. Traditional media is Youtube's competition for attention on long form content.

Re: Susan Wojcicki has died

#475

Post by takinola »

jojobas wrote: post #129
ithkuil wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not? Isn't it in "their interest" to keep people alive longer and longer?

A cured customer is a lost customer. Indefinite remission while taking a daily dose is plausible, or maybe $2.5M per head as Zolgensma.

Other than cynicism, what is the basis for this argument? The economic and social interests of the pharmaceutical companies are to find a cure. If a company came up with a single dose pill that cures colon cancer, they could charge up to the cost of a full course of chemo for that pill and insurance companies would line up to cover it. Go see what has happened with Hep-C and DAAs.

Also, the industry and brand cred that would accrue from being the company that cured cancer would be immense. Think about what that would do for recruiting, influence and access. Ask yourself if Novo-Nordisk is in a worse position today for pretty much curing obesity.

Re: Susan Wojcicki has died

#476

Post by ndriscoll »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #447
cnasc wrote: post #288

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not looking at an advertisement is not “being a leech.” I glance away from billboards, I refill my drink during commercial breaks, I show up when the movie starts instead of when the preview starts. These are normal behaviors, not leech behaviors. The ads are not very sophisticated, so I don’t need sophisticated measures to avoid them. On the web, the ads have ratcheted up the intensity (tracking, targeting) with tec…

This is an extreme comparison, but there's more action in avoiding ads with an adblocker than by passively averting your gaze in physical media. It'd be more like if you chopped down billboards, installed a jammer into your router to deliver phone stats to tv ads, and blaring noises before the movie starts. I don't think it's that extreme, but it's always hard making comparisons between physical and digital. >You hav…

It's more like you have some magic AR glasses that can replace billboards with a blank space, and (presuming the theatre didn't let you in past the beginning of the ads or something) putting in earplugs/earbuds, closing your eyes, and asking your friend to nudge you when the ads are over.

Blocking ads and trackers is no more theft than blocking crypto miners. Malware is malware. You'd be crazy to consider running it as some bizarre form of payment.

Re: Susan Wojcicki has died

#477

Post by johnnyanmac »

ndriscoll wrote: post #476
johnnyanmac wrote: post #447

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is an extreme comparison, but there's more action in avoiding ads with an adblocker than by passively averting your gaze in physical media. It'd be more like if you chopped down billboards, installed a jammer into your router to deliver phone stats to tv ads, and blaring noises before the movie starts. I don't think it's that extreme, but it's always hard making comparisons between physical and digital. >You hav…

It's more like you have some magic AR glasses that can replace billboards with a blank space, and (presuming the theatre didn't let you in past the beginning of the ads or something) putting in earplugs/earbuds, closing your eyes, and asking your friend to nudge you when the ads are over. Blocking ads and trackers is no more theft than blocking crypto miners. Malware is malware. You'd be crazy to consider running it…

Not quite AR because the loss isn't perceivable for hardware ads. No one will come to a billboard and reasonably say "how many people look at this space"? No one can say outside of metrics on traffic.

You can track a bunch of metrics for software and perceive ad blockers, so the loss is more explicit.

>You'd be crazy to consider running it as some bizarre form of payment.

I wont say reality isn't crazy, especially these days. But that's the reality, yes.

Re: Susan Wojcicki has died

#478

Post by ndriscoll »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #477
ndriscoll wrote: post #476

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's more like you have some magic AR glasses that can replace billboards with a blank space, and (presuming the theatre didn't let you in past the beginning of the ads or something) putting in earplugs/earbuds, closing your eyes, and asking your friend to nudge you when the ads are over. Blocking ads and trackers is no more theft than blocking crypto miners. Malware is malware. You'd be crazy to consider running it…

Not quite AR because the loss isn't perceivable for hardware ads. No one will come to a billboard and reasonably say "how many people look at this space"? No one can say outside of metrics on traffic. You can track a bunch of metrics for software and perceive ad blockers, so the loss is more explicit. >You'd be crazy to consider running it as some bizarre form of payment. I wont say reality isn't crazy, especially th…

The technology is basically there for signage to track who looks at it (maybe not billboards, but that's a resolution thing).

In any case, why would I care about how people who are trying to scam me set up their business deals? If I don't run their script, they didn't "lose" anything. Their malware was never allowed to run on my machines in the first place. They failed to steal something from me.

Re: Susan Wojcicki has died

#480

Post by maxglute »

dotnet00 wrote: post #328
lchengify wrote: post #73

Was shocked to hear this news. I worked for Google years ago but I was in the NYC office, so we didn't run into the YouTube folks much. Opinions about YouTube may be mixed here on HN, but it is objectively one of the most successful businesses in tech or media to emerge in the past 15 years. If it weren't buried inside Alphabet, Youtube would be worth on the order of $400 billion, more than Disney and Comcast combine…

YouTube has very much been resting on its laurels, they were innovative 20 years ago when they started. For the past decade or so they have mostly just rested on their laurels allowing the auto-moderation to rampage and destroy people's livelihoods. They've been way behind on adding standard features that their competitors see lots of benefit from. For example, YouTube was years late to the 'channel memberships' game…

YT could learn a lot from bilibili. They've slowly crawled their way to reasonable feature set over the years.
Post reply on HN