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"The time has now come to evolve the smart TV streaming device category — primed for the new area of AI, entertainment and smart homes. ... With Google TV Streamer, you can not only indulge your entertainment needs, but also have a hub for your whole smart home." Your home, controlled by Google. What could possibly go wrong?

Answer this yourself, by saying out loud, "Hey Google, i need help". ...

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post #350

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They explicitly call it "premium" in the launch page. Time to move upmarket in the hopes of actually making a profit.

Roku sells dongles at the same price point, without many other services with which to subsidize the hardware. I am sure Roku monetizes the users in the same ways as Google can, so I do not understand how Google cannot make a profit from them.

>I am sure Roku monetizes the users in the same ways as Google can, so I do not understand how Google cannot make a profit from them.

The same way Roku does not make a profit from them.

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/ROKU/roku/profit-m...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Roku sells dongles at the same price point, without many other services with which to subsidize the hardware. I am sure Roku monetizes the users in the same ways as Google can, so I do not understand how Google cannot make a profit from them.

> Google cannot make a profit from them *enough profit Remember that Google has sunset many products because those profits pale in comparison to search and advertising.

Sure, but I do not see how that improves by focusing on the “premium” hardware. Unless the box is actually cheaper, I would expect the AI capabilities to cost more (either on cloud infrastructure or higher performance chips). Worsening their margin per unit.

People just want to watch Netflix or Disney with minimum friction. A box that is twice the price of the competition, with questionably useful AI features does not seem a winning play.

Re: Moments in Chromecast's history

#474
the branding is confusing, chromecast, chromecast with google tv, chromecast dongle, android auto, chromecast audio,etc.

does this mean airplay will be the only game in town from now on, that is, to cast your audio or screen from your phone to smart speaker or TVs.

Re: Moments in Chromecast's history

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How much of this is an "end" to Chromecast and a rebranding of Chromecast to "Google TV Streamer"? It seems like the bare-bones experience of a Chromecast being tied to a phone (or browser) is getting replaced with an Apple TV like experience. If this is the case, it might be a (rare) example of a good branding shift from Google. I have had two Chromecasts (the original and an Ultra) and I feel like both were hampere…

>It seems like the bare-bones experience of a Chromecast being is getting replaced with an Apple TV like experience. Weird thing about this is the best thing about Chromecast is it’s not an Apple TV form factor and experience and the worst thing about Apple TV is it’s not a Chromecast style stick. I just don’t see where a TV would even exist that doesn’t offer what’s in the box built in already, but I definitely know…

Every "smart" tv is definitely spying on you. Your best defense is never setting it up or buying a dumb tv I'd you can still find them. Control your data! If you're going to surrender your data willingly to apple, google then fine that's a choice, but smart TVs like modern cars have no choice.

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I love my TCL tv. It’s not “dumb” since it’s actually a “google tv” , but if you don’t connect it to the internet, you don’t have to deal with that. It only shows a notification when turned saying it has no internet, but it goes away on its own after a few seconds. When I turn it on, it will automatically select the previous input, so I don’t have to interact with the “smart welcome screen” or whatever it’s called. I…

$218 for 43 inch TCL S4 television, (with Google TV built in) https://www.walmart.com/ip/TCL-43-Class-S-Class-4K-UHD-HDR-L... $99 for Google Streamer. This "streamer" is overpriced for the market.

Damn it’s kinda crazy a 43 inch tv can cost 218 dollars

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Twice the price with a chip from 2021. https://www.androidauthority.com/google-tv-streamer-processo...

> many reviewers praised the Amazon devices for having good performance, so the new Google TV Streamer likely won’t be a slouch when it comes to loading apps or scrolling through the homescreen.

In 2021 they praised the device as having good performance at a price point that is ~$30-40 less than what Google is launching their device at. The second gen of that Fire stick is selling for $40 right now on sale with Wi-Fi 6E. I saw some benchmarks posted of this chip and some others (with a Pixel 6 thrown in arguing that using a bunch of older Tensor chips might have also been a good idea.) And also a Shield TV which is 5 years old at this point.

Single core:

Fire Stick - 140

Shield TV - 279 (99% faster, twice as fast).

Tensor G1 (Pixel 6 Pro) - 1007 (619% faster, seven times faster)

A15 (Apple TV) - 1684 (1103% faster, 12 times as fast).

Multi-core:

Fire Stick - 491

Shield TV - 971 (98% faster, twice as fast).

Tensor G1 (Pixel 6 Pro) - 2541 (418% faster, five times faster)

A15 (Apple TV) - 4489 (814% faster, nine times as fast).

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I had an original 2013 Chromecast plugged into my TV for ten years. It did its job admirably, until it started becoming more and more unstable and began rebooting randomly with each new OS version that Google pushed. I finally replaced it about a month ago with an onn streaming box from Walmart for about 20 bucks--less than I paid for the original Chromecast a decade ago: https://www.walmart.com/ip/onn-Google-TV-4K-S…

With the rapid improvements in electronics, lasting a decade is quite an achievement.

Re: Moments in Chromecast's history

#479

I had an original 2013 Chromecast plugged into my TV for ten years. It did its job admirably, until it started becoming more and more unstable and began rebooting randomly with each new OS version that Google pushed. I finally replaced it about a month ago with an onn streaming box from Walmart for about 20 bucks--less than I paid for the original Chromecast a decade ago: https://www.walmart.com/ip/onn-Google-TV-4K-S…

What I love about the Chromecast at the cabin is that people visiting can just cast whatever streaming service they're using from their phone. No installation, no login, no sharing users.

If instead it will become a more Apple Tv like experience where apps have to be installed and logged in to, it's just a hassle. I will have to log out to avoid guests staying using my subscriptions. A kid watching YouTube will wreak havoc on my suggestions etc.

So not a product I really want. It works well as it is.

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remember this is Google -- don't worry, they'll be changing the name again in 2-3 years. Probably YouTubeCast or YouTube TV (yes they already have a "YouTube TV" but I wouldn't put it past them to combine/confuse the two things like they've done with Google Pay / GPay / Google Wallet / etc)

Or Gtalk, Google Chat, Hangouts, allo, duo, wave, whatever it’s called nowadays.

Meet, it's called Google Meet now.
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