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Cars can have better GPS reception, which is important when you're trying to drive in an urban area with a lot of buildings. Phones are bad at accuracy there. (CarPlay can provide car GPS to the phone though.)
Cars have wheel rotation and direction sensors so can do dead reckoning when the gps isn't being useful
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I have a 2014 Mazda CX-5 and a 2017 Subaru Outback. I have replaced the head units in both with 3rd party units which support CarPlay/AA. Both installations were easy and took about 2-3 hours. Both support changing the car settings through the 3rd party headhunt, integrate with the steering wheel controls, factory backup camera and the factory installed amplifiers (Bose and Harmon Kardon). The key to these integratio…
> Both support changing the car settings through the 3rd party headhunt, integrate with the steering wheel controls, factory backup camera and the factory installed amplifiers (Bose and Harmon Kardon) Wow, I'm impressed. I wouldn't have thought manufacturers nowadays would be forthcoming enough to allow that. Do you know if it is something specific to (some?) Japanese manufacturers, or is it a form of info-display st…
3rd party headhunts from various manufacturers have a port for the iDatalink unit which allows it to integrate with the head unit. Both of mine are Kenwood but I know a few others have support. There are also alternatives to the iDatalink Maestro it is just what I have used.
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If that were true, Tesla would have no problem offering CarPlay and Android Auto compatibility. After all, it’s just a protocol to let your phone use the display (or part of it) as a second monitor.
Lol. Just a protocol that you need to get a blessing from Apple and pay them dearly.
Source? I cannot find a single reference to Apple collecting fees, much less onerous fees, for implementing CarPlay functionality.
Automakers don’t like CarPlay because it makes cars fungible. I like CarPlay because it makes cars fungible. Apple seems like it would give away CarPlay (at least for now) to broaden the reach of its platform.
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If that were true, Tesla would have no problem offering CarPlay and Android Auto compatibility. After all, it’s just a protocol to let your phone use the display (or part of it) as a second monitor.
it is not just that, and cheap decks with laggy carplay/AA unfortunately prove that some processing happens external to the phone
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The AA/Carplay experience is incredibly superior to a cell phone clipped into some type of holder. With wireless Carplay, I couldn't even imagine going back to plugging my phone in, or even taking it out of my pocket. There is no downside because you aren't forced into using it.
> incredibly superior to a cell phone I guess YMMV. I've recently had the chance to test drive some of the latest models from BMW and Audi, and honestly, I found their infotainment software to be quite laggy and sometimes unresponsive. It felt inexact and bloated, reminiscent of an old Windows XP laptop with a Samsung UI skin. While the CarPlay integration was ok, it still didn’t surpass the simplicity and efficiency…
CarPlay mostly works, and although it has issues it's definitely user-focused. CarPlay doesn't prevent car makers from tracking vehicle activity. In the end, consumers don't give a shit about the in-vehicle infotainment. It sucks, or it's AA/CarPlay. The first generation of iDrive showed that rich people people will buy cars in spite of the in-car stuff. In fact, most car infotainment sucks, yet people still buy cars…
If it was user-focused, they wouldn't make unnecessary changes to the UI every release. If it was user-focused, they would put more effort into refinement and fixing bugs.
No, CarPlay is Apple-focused.
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Offline maps such as Gaia don’t work on Tesla so that is it failing at its job compared to CarPlay
Maybe you can use your phone for when you actually go offline once a year…
camping hiking etc bring me places without reception.
driving between towns here (BC, canada) often mean long stretches of road without reception.
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My iPhone 12 has much better reception then my 22 Tacoma even when tossed on the passenger seat. Like waaaaaay better and more accurate
It just pretends to be more accurate by using AI. A car tends to be more raw, which is what you want when navigating at speed. As someone who used to help out with Waze maps, raw GPS tracks from phones can be WAAAY off from actual roads and other GPS tracks. Your phone looks for the most likely road for you to be on and snaps you to that road. Your car does a similar thing but has much higher GPS resolution than your…
google maps does weird things but gaia just uses the raw GPS data from the phone and doesn't snap, however when you are plugged into carplay the phone seems to always consider the car/trucks data more accurate even when its clearly not.
this could very well my specific truck (dealer has refused to look and i don't have another to compare to) or a general tacoma thing but it both smooths the GPS data to make "nicer" looking lines and often introduces drift over time as likely some processing it does compounds an error
(i also realize i said the wrong phone, iphone 14 not 12 but even with the 12 it was notably better then the truck but the 14 pro has a much improved GPS and it shows)
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My iPhone 12 has much better reception then my 22 Tacoma even when tossed on the passenger seat. Like waaaaaay better and more accurate
Phones also use WiFi access points and some Bluetooth beacons to get a better location. AFAIK only Google and Apple have up-to-date maps of these that are useful for navigation, and no one else does (Mozilla threw the towel a year or two ago). Cars can theoretically have better GPS antennae, and can do better dead reckoning using wheel position and wheel rotation speed. But do they? I haven’t seen any evidence that a…
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My iPhone 12 has much better reception then my 22 Tacoma even when tossed on the passenger seat. Like waaaaaay better and more accurate
But the in-car unit has both GPS (with the antenna being on the roof) as well as wheel speed. Noticeable in longer tunnels with traffic jams that make the speed vary. Then it's clear Google maps takes a random guess at where you are while the in-car system knows how far along you are.