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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Maybe not quite the same, but I will point out that “Apple TV” and “Apple TV+” are not just two distinct products, but are in fact entirely different categories of product. One is a piece of hardware akin to a Roku. The other is a streaming service akin to Netflix.

I use both and I haven’t found it too confusing, to be honest. I just think of it as Apple TV (streaming device) gives access to Apple TV+ (streaming service).

https://www.apple.com/apple-tv-app/

Apple TV (app) gives access to Apple TV+ (streaming service)

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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I hope we can get past the round robin required to get content out of GPTs. Lately I’ve stopped using Bard and copilot for summaries because they were… mis-directed. ChatGPT and Phind have been most reliable. But yesterday I needed to populate some database/spreadsheets with some basic data and Bard was the only system that attempted to address my prompt and provide to me 50 results, and in Google Sheets no less. Gen…

I've been using mixtral on Together.ai for this reason.

The model isn't being randomly updated, and you choose its temperature and output length, they can't even set a system prompt to mess it up with.

It's consistently good, and honestly all you need is consistency, you can always iterate on prompts.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Did I get this right? Bard – old name of their generative AI service, to be called Gemini Duet AI – old name for their generative AI in Google Workspace, to be called Gemini Gemini – three things: 1. the name of their models (like GPT). 2. the new name of their free service (like ChatGPT), gives access to Pro 1.0 but not Ultra 1.0. 3. the new name of the Generative AI tools in Google Workspace. Gemini Advanced – the…

I'm a Googler, and I think this is not only the right move but I've of the better names and renamings that the company has done. First, Gemini is just a better sounding name than Bard. And then, few users are going to care about the difference between the model and the app that lets you use the model. If Google kept this distinction they would have inevitably had to either come up with a new name for a new model, whi…

You say it's a good naming choice, yet you called it Gemeni, Gemini and Gimini.

I hope you're trolling, and I've missed the joke.

Additionally, the package name of the "new app" is com.google.android.apps.bard and the privacy policy is at https://support.google.com/bard/answer/13594961

Was this a last minute rename?

Edit: I thought I was going crazy, but it seems you have just edited the comment now, but left a couple of Gemeni around :)

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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I'm only going to pay for one subscription, i'm willing to switch over to Gemini if it is less lazy than GPT-4. The new model was supposed to be better, but I still find it lacking. It's frustrating because the earlier version was super reliable, and the newer one just doesn't bother giving complete answers any more.

I've found its less lazy, and it just surprised me by putting

"# ... Steps to deploy to your specific hosting environment - see below"

which I thought was being lazy, but then it produced a whole block of text asking me questions about the hosting environment so it could continue.

It still has a much shorter context window it seems though.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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I recently learned that my mother is subscribed to Google One. when I asked her why, she didn't even know what it was. IIRC she has like 1-2TB of cloud storage, but is only using like 10 gb of it. I wonder how many of those 100 million subscribers are non-techy people who accidentally signed up?

Or just people like me, who have the $1.99/mo plan because I needed a bit of extra storage for Gmail. I don't use the storage for anything else, I use Dropbox for my "normal" cloud storage needs.

People with cats end up with a lot of cat photos and in the same boat for Photos.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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post #358

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe not quite the same, but I will point out that “Apple TV” and “Apple TV+” are not just two distinct products, but are in fact entirely different categories of product. One is a piece of hardware akin to a Roku. The other is a streaming service akin to Netflix.

I use both and I haven’t found it too confusing, to be honest. I just think of it as Apple TV (streaming device) gives access to Apple TV+ (streaming service).

It would just mean there are somethings you found confusing but others don't and vice versa. But you come swinging like you have done survey of Fortune 500 companies and Google stood out in naming confusion.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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naming things is hard is one of the cultural difference between a computer-first logical mindset contrasted with the mathematics-first mindset the mathematics first mentality does not properly recognize the importance and the difficulty of having good names for things, whereas the computological view recognizes both: the importance and the difficulty

Insofar as naming things is basically applied category theory, I'd trust a mathematician to name a set of products more tersely and understandably than I would an English major.

A math major named this monitor:

https://www.viewsonic.com/eu/products/sheet/VX2758-2KP-MHD

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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If we want to test these beasts in logic, we should probably start using actual formalized logic, rather than English. In just one test, Gemini flopped hard, while GPT-4-Turbo nailed it. Here is my prompt: Below is a well-typed CoC function: foo : ∀(P: Nat -> *) ∀(s: ∀{n} -> ∀(x: (P n)) -> (P (n + 1))) ∀(z: (P 0)) (P 3) = λP λs λz (s (s (s z))) Below is an incomplete CoC function: foo : ∀(P: Nat -> *) ∀(f: ∀{n} -> ∀(…

Such a weird test. 99.9% of humans wouldn't even understand the question, let alone be able to formulate a coherent answer for it.

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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Did I get this right? Bard – old name of their generative AI service, to be called Gemini Duet AI – old name for their generative AI in Google Workspace, to be called Gemini Gemini – three things: 1. the name of their models (like GPT). 2. the new name of their free service (like ChatGPT), gives access to Pro 1.0 but not Ultra 1.0. 3. the new name of the Generative AI tools in Google Workspace. Gemini Advanced – the…

It’s sad that a company of very smart people can’t figure out coherent naming. Can you imagine Apple causing confusion like this? I know it’s not a like-for-like comparison, but everything Apple does it seems like they have a grand strategy that’s clear for everyone to see. Things build up in a modular way to fit a big puzzle. Google, on the other hand, constantly makes up things on an ad hoc basis.

That's because this is an org chart, not a cohesive product.
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