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Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by dbg31415 »

Yeah, OK but Spotify premium family plans are like 16 bucks a month for 6 people...

$35 a year or so per seat? Meh. Hardly worth pirating is it? It seems like a pretty fair price for literally all the music ever made available on demand. Ha.

I always think how much money I wasted on CDs when I was in high school... and then how much time wasted on MP3s in college - downloading, organizing, sharing, syncing... at one point I had 200 GB of audio media files that had to be perpetually curated and stored on an expensive NAS. Insane.

(Not that I didn’t enjoy it a bit... especially finding new tools to help me automate downloads and deduplicate and organize all the files. I had another 16 TB of video files on the NAS shared via Plex server with friends... 2012 or so. It just took so much time!)

So for me, Spotify is a just a better system.

Maybe make a “find a Spotify account friend” matching service. =P

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by swozey »

jjulius wrote: post #421
swozey wrote: post #395

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jesus. The point was that people are, and can be content on living in SF and NYC on under $100k. It's offensive that you think that every single person who makes 70k or whatever range is living in a box filled with rats or whatever you think it is. Who do you think cooks, cleans, and serves drinks to people in SF/NYC? Sorry they aren't up to your standards living wise.

I never said they're not content. I said that people making $70k in those areas might not be able to afford the same things you can, up to and including Spotify. That's. All. I never said that that's how everyone lived, I just said that not everybody making 70k lives comfortably . That could be one person, it could be a handful. I never blanket generalized, you did by saying everyone making $70k should live just fine…

I definitely didn't mean to infer equitable life style, that'd be kind of goofy to think. I'm single and kid-free. I'm not saying the parent of 2 kids could or should drive a new car, or go out all the time, live downtown, etc. especially on that income. I'm sure a LOT of people live in Vallejo and work in SF for instance. Mortgages, Medical problems, alimony, blahblah. Millions of differences. I just meant that there ARE people happily living off of salaries in that range, less so in SF for sure. That's why I never moved, never felt like I could afford it, had the option to live in Los Gatos and around San Mateo (san jose for sure probably).

I was curious so looked it up, 75th % salary in SFbay is $76k. 25th % $113k. These are salaries from the ziprecruiter database- I put in Bartender - $34k, Teacher - $47k, Police - $60k (I know this is wildly off not including their overtime, they make like $150-250k in sf).

https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/-in-San-Francisco,CA#Y...

This newer article says the amount of people in that bracket drpoped 10% 2019-2022. Wonder if that's people moving out, layoffs / biz shuttering, or maybe the covid checks ending lowering peoples income across the board. Those didn't affect the $100k+ market (limit was 80k i think?) which grew 10% regardless. That sucks if it's not them leaving I can only think of negative reasons aside from that or getting raises.

https://www.axios.com/local/san-francisco/2023/09/18/median-...

Sorry, I'm just on a tangent now. Didn't mean to come off rude in general, though.

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by jhatemyjob »

rubymamis wrote: post #73
monsieurbanana wrote: post #4

For something that puts "not using electron" so prominently I didn't expect it using flutter. I admit I don't really have much experience with it, I thought it was like react-native (but better?), still far from truly native apps. Im here to being told I'm wrong. I would love to, specially since we can transpile clojure to dart

Yep. This app uses 230mb of RAM on my machine compared to Spotify that uses 208mb. But it's definitely more performant than my hideously slow Electron Spotify client. I'm really done with Electron. I hope this shaming of Electron apps continue because I can't stand this degradation of software. The only Electron app of recent that had good performance is Notion Calendar (used to be Cron). Although, Notion itself is p…

Coming from AppKit/UIKit I tried to learn Qt and it was just awful. I hated how tightly coupled with C++ it was. Everything was based around subclassing and overriding methods, there was no way to just have a dumb UIView and set its frame and add a bunch of subviews to it. There was also no clean way to expose a C ABI to use a scripting language (with an FFI) to configure the UI easily

All of the Qt apps I know about (Ripcord, Dolphin) are fast but the aesthetics of the UI was just terrible. So I gave up on learning Qt. But this thing you made, Plume, actually looks good. If there isn't a monstrosity of hacks and boilerplate underneath this UI I might give Qt another shot. Otherwise I think I might just build my own thing from scratch on top of OpenGL or something....

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by ta988 »

mock-possum wrote: post #416
cynicalsecurity wrote: post #266

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not about money, it's about freedom and independence. I don't want to lose access to my music and videos because some company decided to apply current idiotic understanding of morals or because of some temporary SJW craze. I don't want them to profile and spy on my tastes and preferences and then sell all of this information about me to any idiot out there with money. I don't want to rely on unstable internet co…

> some temporary SJW craze Sorry what ?

Look at the history of posts of that person. They seem to be excited by triggering people.

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by __MatrixMan__ »

gtirloni wrote: post #426
__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #415

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It drives movie and concert ticket sales. It could do more and we should fix that. Do you also fail to see how investment in technology that prevents certain groups from getting certain information harms everyone tomorrow? It's not like they'd have retool completely if they pivoted from censoring Finding Nemo because you're the wrong kind of customer to censoring political dissent because you're the wrong kind of cit…

> protecting an artist paycheck is just not as important as protecting user freedom Not in my book but thanks for the perspective. I feel my freedom to enjoy some music someone made on their own time has zero priority over said artist paying their bills.

If it were just about entertainment I'd agree with you. What I'm trying to protect is dissent.

I don't want to live in a world where there are no channels not controlled by a third party, and that's the world the content industry is building. Entertainment is just a stepping stone for them.

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by deltaburnt »

twerkmonsta wrote: post #388

Started downloading FLAC music after discovering how bad Spotify compression is even at the highest quality. I still subscribe to Spotify for discovery and convenience, but almost never use it.

Apple Music supports lossless music and uploading your own songs, that's part of why I prefer them over Spotify. Though I'm not sure if they support lossless uploads now or not.

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by e44858 »

hackernewds wrote: post #394
twerkmonsta wrote: post #388

Started downloading FLAC music after discovering how bad Spotify compression is even at the highest quality. I still subscribe to Spotify for discovery and convenience, but almost never use it.

use TIDAL HIFI

Tidal's "HiFi" format was actually the lossy MQA. Seems they recently started to convert their catalog to the truly lossless FLAC: https://www.techhive.com/article/1974696/tidal-flac-preferre...

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by cynicalsecurity »

ta988 wrote: post #474
mock-possum wrote: post #416

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> some temporary SJW craze Sorry what ?

Look at the history of posts of that person. They seem to be excited by triggering people.

I'm sorry, what is exactly triggering in my comment?

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by hcks »

pinkgolem wrote: post #41
drewdevault wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Direct your passion for getting musicians paid to Spotify and the distribution system, not to this. If everyone who uses this software were to use Spotify direct, ads and all, in the long run it would make pennies for the artists at best. You're better off listening to music however you please and buying albums on Bandcamp to support the artists; a lifetime of spotify listening will make less money for an artist you…

>Even if you only listen to one artist, 8 hours per day, 365 days a year, they will earn a whopping... 100 bucks from Spotify. i mean, that sounds fair?

You don’t understand, there is a parallel universe where people don’t pay for Spotify and totally spend 500 bucks per year on merch for each artist they listen to
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