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Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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Being the best in the world to deal with a situation is a neutral statement. Putin is the best in the world to deal with the situation he’s in right now, if you need a negative angle on this.

> Putin is the best in the world to deal with the situation he’s in right now, if you need a negative angle on this. Probably not true? It seems like Russia could use another Yeltsin (or Gorbachev) more than Putin for its current situation.

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Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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It seems that there are a lot of people who are loyal to Sam because they are scared of crossing him. If this is really the pattern here, then this is probably not the timeline we want to be on.

I'm following the whole story to see if there's a sociopath involved.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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post #461

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being the best in the world to deal with a situation is a neutral statement. Putin is the best in the world to deal with the situation he’s in right now, if you need a negative angle on this.

> Putin is the best in the world to deal with the situation he’s in right now, if you need a negative angle on this. Probably not true? It seems like Russia could use another Yeltsin (or Gorbachev) more than Putin for its current situation.

Not for Russia's benefit but for his own.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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From Paul Graham's Twitter, three days ago: "No one in the world is better than Sam at dealing with this kind of situation." Jessica Livingston retweet: "The reason I was a founding donor to OpenAI in 2015 was not because I was interested in AI, but because I believed in Sam. So I hope the board can get its act together and bring Sam and Greg back." Also from a sibling comment: https://twitter.com/search?q=from:paulg…

Doesn't this show a vested interest from pg and jessica in OpenAI? So it's hard for them to say anything negative.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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> CEOs are professional communicators who have reached the highest level of the craft Elon Musk has entered the chat...

Founder CEOs are a different breed. There's a plenty of successful founder CEOs who don't fit the typical hired CEO pattern. Zuckerberg, Sweeney, etc.

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Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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Even if Graham supposedly booted Altman from Y Combinator, I don't see any reason to assume that a similar disagreement would have occurred in this case. Citing that history also seems to assume that Graham himself is an impeccable judge of character. And we don't necessarily have any reason to believe that. Seems to me like they're swinging at windmills with this narrative. Given that the board provided very few det…

And speaking of Graham's judgement: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38384490

Of course it was flagged within a few minutes.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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Paul's tweet is an objective statement, it does not say anything about character or values and is not explicitly supportive.

…you think calling someone “the best in the world” is a) purely factual b) not supportive Uh, what on earth would count as explicitly supportive language?

Any person that gets to this position must be good at some things.

Acknowledging it does not mean supporting the person. It is just a factual statement.

Even Adolf Hitler was good at certain things like manipulating masses of people. Saying this absolutely does not mean I support Hitler. It is just a factual statement.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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I don’t have a strong opinion on the events of the past several days. But a lot of the behavior I’ve seen on twitter from Open AI employees, some led by Sam, feels very cult like: posting in all lower case, the heart emojis, rumors of employees calling each other in the middle of the night to pressure people to sign letters supporting Sam. There isn’t necessarily anything wrong of this behavior. It is good to like yo…

I think I'm out of the loop on tweet protocol...What's the significance of all lowercase?

All lowercase signals casual aloofness; it says the situation doesn't meet your bar for formality. It's like Zuckerberg wearing a hoodie when meeting with Wall Street types.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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post #461

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being the best in the world to deal with a situation is a neutral statement. Putin is the best in the world to deal with the situation he’s in right now, if you need a negative angle on this.

> Putin is the best in the world to deal with the situation he’s in right now, if you need a negative angle on this. Probably not true? It seems like Russia could use another Yeltsin (or Gorbachev) more than Putin for its current situation.

> It seems like Russia could use another Yeltsin (or Gorbachev) more than Putin for its current situation.

He did say best in the world, not best that can be imagined; so unless you are saying there is another Yeltsin or Gorbachev available...

OTOH, Putin is himself an active reason why alternatives aren't readily available.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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From Paul Graham's Twitter, three days ago: "No one in the world is better than Sam at dealing with this kind of situation." Jessica Livingston retweet: "The reason I was a founding donor to OpenAI in 2015 was not because I was interested in AI, but because I believed in Sam. So I hope the board can get its act together and bring Sam and Greg back." Also from a sibling comment: https://twitter.com/search?q=from:paulg…

In the made-for-tv movie about OpenAI - PG is played by an actor mimicking Trump, and that's Sam's origin story. "You're Fired"

Sam with his slick black hair, looking like Tom Hiddleston's Loki... "my ambition knows no bounds, I will build AGI and then you will understand my TRUE power."

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