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Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI
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Re: Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI
#472If the speculation that the board want to open up everything so that it is truly open/public domain "for the benefit of humanity" turns out to be accurate, I can't see Microsoft being terribly happy about this now that they own 49% of OpenAI and want not only to recoup their investments but make ongoing profit. An exodus of staff might provoke a very quick release of a lot of code, pipelines, and training data by the…
It’s the opposite. They are irrationally fearful of what they have built. Therefore, they will handicap any progress or competitive advantage that they have.
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#473This is Olek Madry and Jakub Pachocki we are talking about. Check out their respective dblps if you don't get it. It's a kind of loss that will be hard to recover from. In relation to other comments here. There is "coding" and there is "God's spark genius of algorithms" kind of work. This is what made the magic of OpenAI. Believe me, those guys were not "just coding". My bet is that it could be all about some researc…
If all of that would be enough, there would be a ChatGPT from Google, a long time ago...
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#474Earlier quoted context omitted.
What Brockman tweets is from technical standpoint the most mundane, boring, and obvious stuff I’ve read from a programmer. My reads of this guy have been he’s not working on any problems that are technically difficult (or interesting). It’s much easier to work long hours on easy problems. He also has a managerial vibe in all communications which supports my feeling. Most programming work in any project and company is…
I know nothing about the guy but judging his work and assuming you can guess the type of problems he works on based off his tweets is ludicrous.
Ah, the reverse of the old "he uses difficult terms so he must be super smart".
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#475It seems like firing Sam and causing this massive brain drain might be antithetical to the whole AGI mission of the original non-profit. If OpenAI loses everyone to Sam and he starts some new AI company, it probably won't be capped-profit and just be a normal company. All of the organizational safeguards OpenAI had inked with Microsoft and protection against "selling AGI" once-developed are out-the-window if he just…
Hi, can we talk about the elephant in the room? I see breathless talk about "AGI" here, as if it's just sitting in Altman's basement and waiting to be unleashed. We barely understand how consciousness works, we should stop talking about "AGI". It is just empty, ridiculous techno-babble. Sorry for the harsh language, there's no nice way to drive home this point.
After all, OpenAI's original mission was to create the first AGI, before some bad guys do, iirc.
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#476It's incredible how many of you alleged tech people think that Sam just wanted a world of safe AI while his actions suggest he wanted to make dump trucks of money. He was the one who partnered with Microsoft and turned it from a non-profit to a for-profit company.
You wouldn't have to bring up Microsoft as some kind of evidence, WorldCoin (eyeball scanning scam) is more than enough proof of what he's interested in.
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Impossible with LLMs, with currently known techniques or impossible full stop?
Impossible with computers full stop. IMHO, we may be able to slice together DNA or modify it to create a new or smarter organism than AGI in a computer. They already shifted goal posts and they’ll do it again. AI used to mean AGI but marketing got a hold of it. Once something resembling AGI comes out they’ll say well it’s not Level 5 AGI or something similar.
> Impossible with computers full stop.
This combined with it being possible with DNA is a very rare view. How did you come by it?
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#478GPT5 pre-training just ended I believe. Brock, Pachocki, Szymon Sidor, would have likely all been involved. These are huge losses. Pachocki led pre-training for GPT-4, and probably GPT-5. Brockman is the major engineer responsible for the efficiency improvements that enabled ChatGPT and GPT-4 to be even remotely cost-effective. That is a piece that is often overlooked, but OpenAI's advantage over the competition in c…
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Honest question: How would he make money if he didn’t have equity in OpenAI?
Your forward-looking value to an organization is your value whether it’s realized in equity or not. In the world where Sam Altman leads OpenAI to market dominance and eventual acquisition by Microsoft for $400B or whatever, he obviously would represent an important part of what Microsoft would be buying and would be compensated accordingly.
No he wouldn't, if the CEO is substantially compensated for a $400B acquisition despite not owning equity that would be fraud. It's the CEO's fiduciary duty to act in the best interest of shareholders, if they take a $10bil cut for themselves that is $10bil that could've gone to the shareholders and hence not in their best interest.
It is the reason why CEOs (not Sam, apparently) are usually compensated in stock options. Golden parachutes are some sort of severance when the CEO gets fired immediately from the new company, eg. Twitter.
He's totally the guy who made OpenAI into ClosedAI, but money was clearly not his motivation.
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Then why can't the the grounded truth of ChatGPT be born of a body of silicon and emotional experience of zillions of lines of linguistic corpus?
Those zillions of lines are given to ChatGPT in the form of weights and biases through backprop during pre-training. The data does not map to any experience of ChatGPT itself, so it's performance involves associations between data, not associations between data and its own experience of that data. Compare ChatGPT to a dog-- a dog's experience of an audible "sit" command maps to that particular dog's history of experi…
But I'm not seeing an explicit reason why experience is needed for intelligence. You're repeating this point over and over again but not actually explaining why, you're just assuming that it's a kind of given.