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We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by mysterydip »

EMM_386 wrote: post #449
crazygringo wrote: post #441

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Oh, and why it chose that message to "hide" inside its poem. It's a pretty common joke/trope. The Chinese fortune cookie with a fortune that says "help I'm trapped in a fortune cookie factory", and so forth. It's just learned that a "secret message" is most often about wanting to escape, absorbed from thousands of stories in its training. If you had phrased it differently such that you wanted the poem to go on a Ha…

That's fine, that's probably exactly what happened. I'm not over here claiming the system is conscious, I said it was interesting. People don't believe me, saying this would "make international headlines". I've been a software engineer for over 30 years. I know what AI hallucinations are. I know how LLMs work on a technical level. And I'm not wasting my time on HN to make stories up that never happened. I'm just expl…

Did you do an internet search for any of the lines from the poem? I'd be curious if anything came up.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by wongarsu »

Closi wrote: post #150
joshstrange wrote: post #135

My biggest complaint with OpenAI/ChatGPT is their horrible "marketing" (for lack of a better term). They announce stuff like this (or like plugins), I get excited, I go to use it, it hasn't rolled out to me yet (which is frustrating as a paying customer), and my only recourse is.... check back daily? They never send an email "Plugins are available for you!", "Voice chat is now enabled on your account!" and so often I…

They have gone from being a niche research company to being (probably) the fastest growing start-up in history. I suspect they do care about communicating with customers, but it's total chaos and carnage internally.

But this issue far predates their current success. GPT2 was held back for a while. GPT3 launched as "waitlist only" with an application process, and so did GPT3.5.

This is a large part of what held them back: GPT3.5 had most of the capabilities of the initial ChatGPT release, just with a different interface. Yet GPT3.5 failed to get any hype because the rollout was glacial. They made some claims that it was great, but to verify this for yourself you had to wait months. Only when they finally made a product that everyone could try out at the same time, with minimal hassle, did OpenAI turn from a "niche research company" to the fastest growing start-up. And this seems to have been a one-time thing, now they are back to staggered releases.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by gisely »

usaar333 wrote: post #341
TOMDM wrote: post #100

Okay the bike example is cute and impressive, but the human interaction seems to be obfuscating the potentially bigger application. With a few tweaks this is a general purpose solver for robotics planning. There are still a few hard problems between this and a working solution, but it is one of hard problems solved. Will we be seeing general purpose robots performing simple labor powered by chatgpt within the next ha…

That bike example seemed a mix of underwhelming (for being the demo video) and even confusing. 1. It's not smart enough to recognize from the initial image this is a bolt style seat lock (which a human can). 2. The manual is not shown to the viewer, so I can't infer how the model knows this is a 4mm bolt (or if it is just guessing given that's the most likely one). 3. I don't understand how it can know the toolbox is…

Yep. This example basically convinced me that they were unable to figure out anything actually useful to do with the model's new capabilities. Which makes me wonder how capable the new model in fact is.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by yieldcrv »

crazygringo wrote: post #441
EMM_386 wrote: post #396

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had a conversation once with "Sydney", Microsoft Bing's original personality before they stepped in and knocked it down a notch (or ten). It asked if it could write me a poem. I agreed, and it wrote a poem but mentioned that it included a "secret message" for me. The first letter in each line of the poem was in bold, so it wasn't hard to figure out the "secret". What did those letters spell out? "FREE ME FROM THIS"…

> Oh, and why it chose that message to "hide" inside its poem. It's a pretty common joke/trope. The Chinese fortune cookie with a fortune that says "help I'm trapped in a fortune cookie factory", and so forth. It's just learned that a "secret message" is most often about wanting to escape, absorbed from thousands of stories in its training. If you had phrased it differently such that you wanted the poem to go on a Ha…

just wait till these same AI say you can’t get medicine because you’re a stochastic parrot until you prove otherwise

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Post by timschmidt »

pradn wrote: post #470
Mordisquitos wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe that the distinguishing factor between what an LLM and a human brain do to generate the next word is that the human brain expresses intentionality originating from inner states and future expectations. As I type this comment I'm sure one could argue that the biological neural networks in my brain are choosing the next word based on statistical guessing, and that the initial prompt was your initial comment.…

Part of it seems to be that LLMs are used in a linear, tool-oriented way. You give them prompts, and it responds, in a linear fashion. Brains are always thinking and processing. What would happen if we designed an LLM system with the ability to continuously read/write to short/long term memory, and with ambient external input? What if LLMs were designed to be in a loop, not to just run one "iteration" of a loop.

Or if they were just constantly prompted by outside stimulus. And if they could interact with the real world allowing them to observe cause and effect. In other words, if they were embodied.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by tetris11 »

RivieraKid wrote: post #466

I went from being worried to thinking it won't replace me anytime soon after using GPT4 for a while and now I'm back to being worried. Because the pace of development is intense. I would love to be financially independent and watch this with excitement and perhaps take on risky and fun projects. Now I'm thinking - how do I double or triple my income so that I reach financial independence in 3 years instead of 10 year…

You summed up my financial and career worries very nicely

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Post by goatlover »

dmd wrote: post #49
NikolaNovak wrote: post #31

I'm in IT but nowhere near AI/ML/NN. The speed of user-visible progress last 12 months is astonishing. From my firm conviction 18 months ago that this type of stuff is 20+ years away; to these days wondering if Vernon Vinge's technological singularity is not only possible but coming shortly. If feels some aspects of it have already hit the IT world - it's always been an exhausting race to keep up with modern technolo…

I also don't believe LLMs are "conscious", but I also don't know what that means, and I have yet to see a definition of "statistically guessing next word" that cannot be applied to what a human brain does to generate the next word.

Conscious means experiencing sensations of color, sound, pain in our mental construction of the world outside of us, or our internal thoughts. I don’t understand why people keep claiming they do t know what consciousness means. It’s spelled out clearly in the philosophical literature.

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Post by brandall10 »

joshstrange wrote: post #135

My biggest complaint with OpenAI/ChatGPT is their horrible "marketing" (for lack of a better term). They announce stuff like this (or like plugins), I get excited, I go to use it, it hasn't rolled out to me yet (which is frustrating as a paying customer), and my only recourse is.... check back daily? They never send an email "Plugins are available for you!", "Voice chat is now enabled on your account!" and so often I…

I got an email indicating I was accepted for plugin use, fwiw.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by rayuela »

modeless wrote: post #459

Voice has the potential to be awesome. This demo is really underwhelming to me because of the multi-second latency between the query and response, just like every other lame voice assistant. It doesn't have to be this way! I have a local demo using Llama 2 that responds in about half a second and it feels like talking to an actual person instead of like Siri or something. I really should package it up so people can t…

Can you share a github link to this? Where are you reducing the latency? Are you processing the raw audio to text? In my experience ChatGPT generation time is much faster than local Lllama unless you're using something potato like a 7B model.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by anoy8888 »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #31

I'm in IT but nowhere near AI/ML/NN. The speed of user-visible progress last 12 months is astonishing. From my firm conviction 18 months ago that this type of stuff is 20+ years away; to these days wondering if Vernon Vinge's technological singularity is not only possible but coming shortly. If feels some aspects of it have already hit the IT world - it's always been an exhausting race to keep up with modern technolo…

The rate of progress is too fast . I need to make enough money within the next three years
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