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Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by nani8ot »

Matl wrote: post #235
SirMaster wrote: post #184

I understand why they did it. But just my perspective on it, I will have to replace all my lightning cables with usb-c, and the usb-c ecosystem seems like a nightmare to me from what I have seen. This would be my first usb-c device.

> the usb-c ecosystem seems like a nightmare to me from what I have seen. Compared to lighting it only has advantages, faster charging, more universal. It's only a nightmare because you can carry almost anything over USB C incl. DisplayPort etc. which is not always clear if it's supported or not

Agreed. Any compliant USB-C cable supports all the features lightning does, aka. power and USB 2.0 data.

It also supports HDMI but that's used with an adapter anyway, so it's not a consideration if it works for a user.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by ulkesh »

rahkiin wrote: post #353
ulkesh wrote: post #320

So the only compelling reason to upgrade from the 14 is...USB-C, where people are saying the 15 (non-Pro) runs at USB2 speeds? This was one of the most lackluster Apple launches in recent memory. I long for the day when Apple actually innovated on this product line. Now they're simply treading water and only making good changes when forced to (EU requiring USB-C). I will give credit where it is due for Apple -- the M…

What do you even use usb data transfer for? I have only ever used it for development which was quick enough with Lightning (also usb 2.0)

Whatever I please. It's irrelevant what I may use it or not use it for.

The point is that the technology now is far past USB 2 (and has been for some time despite Apple's persistence on using Lightning with such slower speeds) and the only reason they have for not putting USB 3 in the 15s (non-Pro) is greed. They were forced by the EU to convert to USB-C, so it looks to me as if they did the absolute minimal amount of work and effort to be any more consumer-friendly than they have to be.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by fdsafdsa32va »

mint2 wrote: post #455
nu11ptr wrote: post #19

Dynamic Island, USB-C and camera enhancements make me glad this is my upgrade year (I have a 12). I will probably grab the base Pro model for $200 more due to even better camera though, but I would be pretty happy with the 15 regular as well. I stopped with the big phones a few years ago... the battery bump is nice, but my phone goes everywhere and I prefer the regular size in my hand and pocket.

I don’t quite get all the comments that are expressing disappointment- I think the camera and particularly the zoom is a great upgrade versus my 12 pro, and there’s a bunch of other nice to haves. I’ll probably upgrade next year though not this one. Expecting major improvements and new features every year is odd to me. These incremental gains add up over the 3-4 years that I feel is a reasonable minimum phone life.

> Expecting major improvements and new features every year is odd to me.

I think that has to do with Apple's own presentation/marketing. They make the announcement into a big thing.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by e44858 »

brotherhoodZero wrote: post #269

I may be an odd on out here, but I'm not a fan of the move to USB-C. I don't care about data speeds or charging speeds. I don't even care about durability of the cable as they can be replaced. I care about durability of the charging port on the device and every USB-C device I've ever owned has become "loose" over time. This includes my iPad Mini, so I don't believe Apples has found a solution to this. Meanwhile, I ma…

Did you try new cables? With USB-C the retaining spring is in the cable, so if it gets loose you just need to replace the cable. With Lightning the spring is inside the charge port in the device, so it's a lot more expensive to replace.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by jmyeet »

dahwolf wrote: post #420

The entire announcement is an exercise in masking that they're running out of ideas. Excessive lectures on environmental footprint. Lots of cultural/humanitarian story telling, a pile of non-relatable tech info where they only briefly showed the embarrassing "up to 10% faster", dull/static presenters with their fake excitement. Even the Pro model, typically the only model where they might add some actual features of…

"Running out of ideas" isn't how I'd characterize it.

I'd put it this way: the device (ie a phone) is now a fully-developed mature product and platform. It browses the Web, runs apps, takes photos/video and plays music/video.

Phones pursued the largest possible screen, first by removing the home button (which, to this day, I still hate and I find gesture replacements to be inferior and inconsistent eg swiping up depends on orientation) and then with the "notch". We lost Touch ID (which I vastly prefer) for Face ID, which is pretty much the sole cause of "iPhone is unavailable for 27 minutes" when the phone sits in your pocket. There are lots of threads all over the Internet about this.

So what Apple (and Samsung) now do is fight commodification, which will lower prices. Forced obsolescence, phones the only really last 2-4 years, incremental component upgrades, sleek materials and a moat of app availability (ie Android vs iOS).

There's really no reason a fully-featured phone should still cost $1000+.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by doctoboggan »

ukd1 wrote: post #440

Removing the mute switch for the action button is a step backwards; if I upgrade I'd not be able to feel in my pocket that my phone is on mute.

They claimed a different haptic feedback for on vs off, so if that's true you will be able to tell the mode you've toggled into by feel.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by dzikimarian »

dmix wrote: post #122
post_break wrote: post #32

USB 2.0 on the 15 is kind of a joke considering it came out in April of 2000. 60hz, USB 2.0, getting a bit dated. I know a bunch of people will excuse it but at that price I think it's not ideal. Oh and RIP 13 Mini, you'll be my phone until I can't use it anymore I suppose.

Has the EU legislation factored in the USB-*(D?) might come next? Hopefully it doesn't slow down adoption of new technology. The main downside instead of buying a lightning cable that always work we now have to decipher the 10 minor variations of USB-C's various speeds/power now with zero consistency in naming schemes or amazon titles.

EU legislation has review built-in. No way it's going to be slower than switch from lightning.

Also from other commenters say Apple implemented USB 2.0, so you don't have to care about type of USB-C cable you're buying - these are for advanced features which as it seems are not present in iPhone 15.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by scarface_74 »

esotericsean wrote: post #179

Curious what other devices people have that use USB-C? The only one I have is my Nintendo Switch. So for me, this is mostly an inconvenience having to get new cables for my phone. I'll miss Lightning.

My MacBook Air and my portable external monitor gets power and video from one USB C cable.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by ThrowawayR2 »

pzo wrote: post #264

Do yourself a favour and just buy a magnetic adapter + cable such as Baseus magnetic zinc [1] You will: - save money to buy new phone (cable costs just ~10$) - it's magnetic so even more convenient to use - magnetic adapter protects connector from dust getting inside or getting broken - you use the same cable with adapters for usb-c, lightning and micro-usb to charge different gadgets (even older airpods pro) - at le…

I've tried similar devices and they're only good for charging. Try to push any data through it and there will be all sorts of slowdown and erratic data transfer issues.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by TimCTRL »

Synaesthesia wrote: post #468
nowooski wrote: post #342

It's pretty wild that Apple has held prices down the last few years in the face of elevated inflation. I decided to calculate the inflation-adjusted price of every iPhone ever, and the 15 line are some of the most affordable (in 2023 dollars). Full table and charts are here: https://www.perfectrec.com/posts/iPhone15-price But the take aways are: - iPhone 15 is cheapest base model since the OG iPhone in 2007 - 15 Plus…

For people in the US yes, overseas they are famously overpriced. Here in South Africa the cost of an iPhone is ridiculous.

You could buy a 50x100 plot of land here in East Africa
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