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Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by joquarky »

gambiting wrote: post #170

So this is how I live my life - knowing that your good health and ability can always just end at no fault of your own. It still haunts me that my father had plans we always talked about, he was very active and loved going outdoors and travelling, mountain biking, hiking etc, he spent a crazy amount of time getting a Land Rover done up as a Camel Trophy replica for a big adventure we were meant to go on, and then basi…

This is good advice, as I assume most here are fairly young.

Be mindful to take chronic pain into consideration for any plans later in life, especially if you've not been the most disciplined with your health.

Also get up and stretch more. Please.

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by dogman144 »

satvikpendem wrote: post #37
cheald wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It still doesn't change the fact that a suboptimal program which keeps beginners engaged and moving forward is infinitely superior to a more complex one that they fall off of.

It does actually. The program is so poor that beginners might not even see enough progress that they're put off from working out, because "what's the point if I've been at it for a month or three and still don't have any gains?" That's why it's better to actually pick a good program, one that shows consistent gains as motivation rather than plateauing as a demotivational force. Other recommended programs like 5/3/1 a…

Have you even done SS or read the book, actually end to end?

Comparing 5/3/1 or a reddit post to SS indicates a complete lack of familiarity.

You can use dismissive like survivorship bias all you’d like, but end do the day Rip knows and runs a tier 1 program to get in life shape. It’s very difficult to read SS and execute it as designed and not come to that conclusion.

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by tjoff »

cxr wrote: post #465
tjoff wrote: post #456

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Somewhat agree, but when you say typing the date you mean ISO 8601, right? That is the only sensible format for dates, and while all developers probably agree on that it isn't a given that all your users will.

As input, any permutation of full year, full month name, and day of the month is unambiguous wrt any date on or after January 1, 100 CE* and therefore sensible, no matter how unusual/obscure. (The issue of handling multiple languages isn't a rejoinder to this, because that's just localization, which is an umbrella that should already exist so treating it like a new requirement would just be double counting.) This is…

Noone would expect that so you'd need to explain it and get people to spell correctly. Not convinced it is a good UX.

"Just localization" isn't "just". Many people have the wrong localization on their computers. Partly because they don't always communicate in their native language. But also because google et. al. are doing such a piss poor job of it.

It is also always weird if your are on an international site. Enter everything in English and then suddenly is expected to enter some fields in your native language.

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by nwiswell »

kerkeslager wrote: post #338
tastysandwich wrote: post #6

One of the best things I ever did was get strong through a basic barbell training program called Starting Strength. Squat, deadlift, overhead press, bench press, chinups, eat, sleep. It really is that easy. Highly recommend it for anyone interested. 1. Any back pain I had disappeared completely. 2. When I have to lift something awkward (eg, furniture), I don't injure myself. If you can deadlift 200KG, awkwardly leani…

As usual, Hacker News presents the anti-human take in the top few most upvoted comments. Although this is an unusually subtle one. I say this as a guy who still works a Starting-Strength-based program. Power lifting is great--it changed my life. But it's NOT a solution to disability and it's NOT a foolproof prevention. The implication that "if people just got off their asses and did some exercise they wouldn't be dis…

This is an extremely cynical take. (As usual, Hacker News!)

> The implication that "if people just got off their asses and did some exercise they wouldn't be disabled!" is disgusting.

I don't know how you got that implication. It seems like you agree that lifting is great. Many people don't do resistance exercise. The article itself is about the process of aging, and resistance exercise helps as a prophylactic. We all understand it's not a solution to all disability. But if it turns some people on to lifting, then net-net there's less disability in the world.

Great! What's the problem? (While we're talking about implications, your comment does seem to imply you haven't read the linked article.)

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by croes »

maxbond wrote: post #433
croes wrote: post #32

>100% of people will have some form of disability in their lifetime. Wrong. You could die suddenly in peak condition without ever having a disability.

I addressed this here: https://news.ycombinator.com/edit?id=37212689 > "100%" doesn't mean "there are no nitpicky edge cases," it means, "this includes you, yes you, this is relevant to you ." > It is completely normal to use language that is not entirely precise. It isn't a criticism to point this out.

There are people who take words quite literally, pretty ironic to ignore them in a post about disabilities.

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by wizofaus »

SoftTalker wrote: post #377
ryathal wrote: post #359

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's been a while, but I'm not convinced there is a truly accessible date picker out there. Allowing manual typing of the date seems like the best and only viable option.

Also just typing the date manually is almost always faster than using a date picker. Or at least that's how I perceive it, which is all that matters. I hate apps that force me to take my hands off the keyboard and use the mouse.

As soon as we solve the whole US-using-a-different-date-format-to-the-rest-of-the-world problem, absolutely. Having it automatically display the day of the week as you type the date would be a big help though.

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by amalcon »

SoftTalker wrote: post #377
ryathal wrote: post #359

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's been a while, but I'm not convinced there is a truly accessible date picker out there. Allowing manual typing of the date seems like the best and only viable option.

Also just typing the date manually is almost always faster than using a date picker. Or at least that's how I perceive it, which is all that matters. I hate apps that force me to take my hands off the keyboard and use the mouse.

The problem is that "just typing the date manually" actually has quite complex i18n issues. It can be done well, but that generally means you make the user explicitly confirm the date they just typed.

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by Aaronstotle »

gambiting wrote: post #170

So this is how I live my life - knowing that your good health and ability can always just end at no fault of your own. It still haunts me that my father had plans we always talked about, he was very active and loved going outdoors and travelling, mountain biking, hiking etc, he spent a crazy amount of time getting a Land Rover done up as a Camel Trophy replica for a big adventure we were meant to go on, and then basi…

Good advice, one of my dear family friends father passed away during Christmas in 2021.

I think the saddest thing was that they had been planning a trip to Spain and were putting it off to do other things instead, he was nearing retirement as well.

Since that day I've been more willing to do things instead of putting them off.

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by pacaro »

cxr wrote: post #465
tjoff wrote: post #456

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Somewhat agree, but when you say typing the date you mean ISO 8601, right? That is the only sensible format for dates, and while all developers probably agree on that it isn't a given that all your users will.

As input, any permutation of full year, full month name, and day of the month is unambiguous wrt any date on or after January 1, 100 CE* and therefore sensible, no matter how unusual/obscure. (The issue of handling multiple languages isn't a rejoinder to this, because that's just localization, which is an umbrella that should already exist so treating it like a new requirement would just be double counting.) This is…

Only if you use a proleptic calendar. If you are entering dates from historic documents, you need to know which calendar the author of the document was using

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by [deleted] »

croes wrote: post #475
maxbond wrote: post #433

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I addressed this here: https://news.ycombinator.com/edit?id=37212689 > "100%" doesn't mean "there are no nitpicky edge cases," it means, "this includes you, yes you, this is relevant to you ." > It is completely normal to use language that is not entirely precise. It isn't a criticism to point this out.

There are people who take words quite literally, pretty ironic to ignore them in a post about disabilities.

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