Google’s nightmare “Web Integrity API” wants a DRM gatekeeper for the web

Post by nintendo1889 » Fri, Jul 28, 2023, 12:13 PM UTC

mabbo wrote: post #32

> Exactly how the rest of the world feels about this is not necessarily relevant, though. Google owns the world's most popular web browser, the world's largest advertising network, the world's biggest search engine, the world's most popular operating system, and some of the world's most popular websites. So really, Google can do whatever it wants. This is the point that company breakups start to make a lot of sense.…

Post by IIsi50MHz » Fri, Jul 28, 2023, 5:44 PM UTC

lozenge wrote: post #323

ineptech wrote: post #93

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I don't buy this. I'm sure most iphone users don't care when you ask them about privacy or manifest v3 as an abstract concept, but remember what happened when Apple tried to push a U2 album to them? They lost their collective shit. They may not write blog posts about privacy or donate to the EFF, but they have deeply personal relationships with "their" phone and they absolutely hate being reminded that it isn't reall…

Nobody would care about the U2 album today. It would be just another pop up or advertising notice among many others. Microsoft recommends Edge! Review your choices! 90 days free Apple TV! Upgrade your iCloud to continue backups! The only one that slightly moved the meter is your documents moving to OneDrive, even that only had an impact because of a data loss bug.

Post by nintendo1889 » Fri, Jul 28, 2023, 10:44 PM UTC

darreninthenet wrote: post #317

kelnos wrote: post #63

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> When Google can do something that every one of it's users hates I don't think this is remotely the case. Quite a few tech-savvy people I know (some of them software developers) use Chrome and mostly don't care about whatever Google does with it. I mention "manifest v3" and get a blank stare. I talk about advertising and ad blockers, and most people don't care, with some of them not even using ad blockers. We really…

I have to disagree with Firefox... in terms of functionality and configurability it's by far and away my preferred browser but in terms of performance it just crunches to a crawl on my Mac. Load times of pages are absolutely fine but changing tabs crunch , scroll down the webpage judder freeze whereas Edge is just silky smooth. Maybe it's an extension or three I'm running but I just want to use the bloody thing not s…

Post by nintendo1889 » Fri, Jul 28, 2023, 11:07 PM UTC

Post by nintendo1889 » Fri, Jul 28, 2023, 11:09 PM UTC

whatshisface wrote: post #148

px43 wrote: post #118

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That makes zero sense. If they ever did that they would lose all their market share overnight, and they know that. Google has always been good about letting people have full control over their devices, despite building incredibly locked down UX. It would be trivial for them to build a Chromebook, or Android phone, or browser that you can't flip into dev mode, but they've never done that, even though many of their com…

That is what would happen if they made adblocking impossible in chrome today , minus all the people who don't use AdBlock and happen to be numerous enough to be Google's entire business. In a world with attestation, you can't browse any website unless you are using Chrome or another attested browser. The New York Times would refuse to serve content to unattested user agents. That is what would make everyone use Chrom…