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> This version of the Internet is starting to suck. :( The internet is fine. The highly centralized businesses that built themselves on the technology are meeting their inevitable end.

The internet is most definitely not fine. There is an incoming tsunami of chat gpt generated bullshit that is going to make most open discussion sites more or less useless. Twitter requiring accounts and Reddit shutting down apis are both related: chat gpt et al are a threat to the social media business and ironically made possible because of the social media business. TBF I think we should all be exercising extreme…

Right, if you aren’t already doing this, you’re about to have to screen every single comment online in a fucked up game of ‘human or robot’

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I have a prediction that will make you happier: This is a temporary thing, that will generate a TON of press (outrage ; praise by the fans at the amazing bold strategy move) and will also generate a TON of signups right as there is a wave of people leaving Reddit. And then it will magically open back up. (More press) And that's the story of pretty much every one of the outrageous/bold/brilliant/terrible strategic dec…

This wasn’t the case for Twitter API pricing changes. My Twitter usage is down a lot since they killed off 3rd party clients.

> My Twitter usage is down a lot since they killed off 3rd party clients.

Every user hostile move they've made basically halves my usage.

I used to spend way too much time on Twitter, now it's 10 minutes a week and I don't feel like I miss much.

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On the other hand, public institutions have long been criticized for not communicating where the people are. Notices posted on their own website are unlikely to read by anywhere as broad an audience. Plenty uses newspapers, but even my grandparents get stuff from Twitter before the paper now, if just from younger people sharing it with them. I agree Twitter shouldn't be the only channel, but it is where the people ar…

They should have promoted RSS.

I think I remember suggesting RSS to them as an option. Utterly technically trivial. If they'd done that and then syndicated it out to Twitter etc, they could have served everybody.

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Musk commented on this: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1674865731136020505 "Temporary emergency measure. We were getting data pillaged so much that it was degrading service for normal users!"

$5 that antiscraping backend was one of the non-essential services he shutdown after acquisition.

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The article itself is well over 6 hours old. While you may technically be correct about the fact that Musk's tweet counts as comment, an article that has yet to be updated should be called "now inaccurate", not "fake news". The way you've misrepresented this is more akin to fake news than the article is, and likely to get your comment flagged/heavily downvoted.

> an article that has yet to be updated should be called "now inaccurate", not "fake news". I disagree. It's a lie by omission, as same-day corrections on articles are a journalistic norm. By not doing so here, it conveniently furthers the Anti-Elon agenda that the tech media, including Techcrunch, has been confirmed to be pushing. Means, motive, opportunity. There is a huge ethics problem with "journalists" in the U…

>But what do I know?

Certainly not the inner workings of Techcrunch.

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It always irked me that public institutions embraced Twitter as a primary means of communication in many cases. It never seemed right that a private company was being put in between public functions and the the public which depends on them. Not to mention, since I live outside the US, a private company in another country. I even wrote complaints to one local public body to ask them to set up a communication channel t…

Facebook cut off access to Australian fire brigade pages, among others.

Facebook news is shutting off in Canada where there are currently wildfires. I'm leaving no comment on why.

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This killed nitter. Fuck. I guess I'm done with Twitter. Reddit is in Eternal September. Twitter is login-walled. If HN is next, I'll probably be mostly done with the Internet. This version of the Internet is starting to suck. :(

also killed my irc bot that scrapes tweets to display them. Imo It won't help twitter to have no free read API calls, people won't click on every twitter link just to read two lines of text. I'd only need ~30 a day but I'm not paying 100 dollars a month (?!) just to read a few tweets.

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post #193

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To paraphrase Gilmore, “the net interprets [mandatory login and other access fuckery] as censorship and routes around it” If Twitter locks out more readers, people will stop posting and move elsewhere. If Reddit ejects the mods that made it successful, communities will evolve elsewhere. The forest will regrow and different paths will form, routing around the dying patches.

This is the main reason I don't use quora and pinterest. But I guess they are still around.

Yes they are, and both are a lot more crappy than they were before.

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post #245

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For me the main barrier is that I want to have portable/roaming control over my IDENTITY , even if the content hosting is (for now) entirely through a system administered by someone else. If I control the identity, I can at least keep local copies and rehost/repost content later. Instead, it feels like the current Fediverse demands that I make a blind choice to entrust not merely a copy of my content but also my whol…

I've been able to switch mastadon instances without any problems; most instances seem to handle whatever activitypub machinery transfers followers. So as long as both your source and destination support account transfers, you can usually switch and even seamlessly bring along most of your followers without them noticing. No idea about your admin question. All bets are likely off with a bad admin. If you want actual c…

> I've been able to switch mastadon instances without any problems; most instances seem to handle whatever activitypub machinery transfers followers.

But none of your content goes with, and that's really terrible because it gives a lot of power to petty-kingdom jackass admins.

AT Protocol is heartening because maybe they've got a good solution to that.

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