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The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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I don't know if this is a good metric because Reddit five years ago had 4x as many active users than 9 years ago. It would probably be an interesting exercise to download the data for all the AMAs and adjust by MAU to see what the actual most popular threads were, but I'm not going to do that right now.

> I don't know if this is a good metric because Reddit five years ago had 4x as many active users than 9 years ago. It does today, yet most of the top upvoted ones aren't from the last few years. Rather, most seem to be from 2 to 3 years after Victoria was fired. So they seemed to get more popular in the first few years after she was fired, and then less after that. I'm not sure that can simplistically be chalked up…

> It does today, yet most of the top upvoted ones aren't from the last few years. Rather, most seem to be from 2 to 3 years after Victoria was fired. So they seemed to get more popular in the first few years after she was fired, and then less after that.

The subreddit was a default subreddit for a while, and no longer is. So for some years, every new Reddit user was automatically subscribed to it, and that stopped being the case.

Everything you're saying actually corroborates OP's claim.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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post #328

You should read these threads if you want to get an idea of how the normie users think about the whole lockout: https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/14b11kh/were_just_here... https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/14al426/rapple_black...

That mostly seems like an expression of low empathy by users of a large sub, which largely tracks.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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I used to moderate a support subreddit, we eventually moved to Discord and encouraged everyone to move there as well. Behaviour such as only supports our move.

I wish Discords were discoverable. Why do I need so many members to show up when search for servers? That means I need to have a community somewhere else.

https://disboard.org/

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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They’re gonna be left with bottom of the barrel mods. It’s a thankless task to begin with - a marginal proposition at best. Add some threats as a thank you for the unpaid work and it becomes downright abusive Who the hell is going to want to mod in that context?

> Who the hell is going to want to mod in that context?

The same type of people who want to be on the boards of HOA's. eg: the ones you least want doing it.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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post #328

You should read these threads if you want to get an idea of how the normie users think about the whole lockout: https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/14b11kh/were_just_here... https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/14al426/rapple_black...

Here's another good one: https://www.reddit.com/r/NBATalk/comments/14aftuz/reddit_adm... r/nba shut down for the Finals.

The reopening thread is hilarious as well:

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/14bxljj/the_return_of_...

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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How does that work for online French Forums or other internet platforms that are community based? What about old school BBSes?

A strike is very well defined, a "volunteer moderator strike" doesn't constitute a strike from a legal perspective

>Would mods be an employee.

I took this as mods would be considered employees in France. After a second read, it looks like they meant something different.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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post #178

I'm almost starting to think they really will break Reddit. When all this started I had no doubt that the protests would come, make their point, end, and then Reddit would continue on its way. But this has been so poorly handled. I think a key to reddit's "success" (such as it is) is that they figured out how to scale moderation -- by getting volunteers to do the tough work for free. I'm sure reddit can toss all the…

> Before, mods could run subreddits as they saw fit, users could choose the subreddits they participated in, and a user can always create a new subreddit if they don't think any existing ones suit their needs. As a frequent Reddit user I don't agree with that. The network effects of subreddits plus the fact that they usually own the default name for a topic grant a lot of subs effective monopolies. As a user if I don…

> The network effects of subreddits plus the fact that they usually own the default name for a topic grant a lot of subs effective monopolies.

That's often the case, but not always. A bad mod can drive people to an alternate subs. And having the default name doesn't mean that a sub with an alternate name can't thrive. I enjoy r/marijuanaenthusiasts despite the fact that I've never smoked.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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post #293

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I'm -> <- this close to deleting all the posts in my 15 year old reddit account. It's not just moderators they are losing.

They don't give a shit about us (14 year old account here), they've already gotten everything. What they want is the endless hordes of TikTok normies posting animated gifs and HD user pics etc. And it's working. The old reddit we loved is never coming back.

I think you're right. I've been active on Reddit for years. It has always been a fractious collection of niche communities. It can be hard for an outsider to navigate. For all our complaining that Reddit is turning its back on its users, what makes us think they want to keep us around? I remember when Facebook started making changes so it could appeal to people outside of a handful of college campuses. There was a lot of complaining, but Facebook grew massively as a result.

This moment could be remembered either as Reddit's "own goal" moment where they kill their platform, or their "MTV stops playing music videos" moment where they redefine who they are.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Mods don't work for Reddit. They volunteer for Reddit moderation. Much like you can volunteer to be the leader of the DND club at a local hobby shop. They are not an employee. People who don't like what Reddit is doing should stop showing up. Mods who don't like it should stop moderating. It's as simple as that, if enough people agree, Reddit will be no more. I will bet Reddit will be just fine.

>Mods don't work for Reddit. They volunteer for Reddit moderation. Much like you can volunteer to be the leader of the DND club at a local hobby shop. They are not an employee. DND has no control over people doing DND at a local hobby shop, but if Reddit gets directly involved in hiring and firing and other such management of free labor then it is setting up to be viewed as an employer. There are many differences bet…

They aren't firing mods, they are telling the mods they can't come in the store anymore, they are free to look through the window.
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