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Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by aerio » Tue, Jun 13, 2023, 2:33 AM UTC

ineedasername wrote: post #447

marban wrote: post #77

I was the creator of the OG Popurls which at the time was the #1 traffic driver for Reddit and Digg; and also created Twidroid the very first Android Twitter client which became one of the reasons for shutting down 3rd party apps after its acquisition. Since I'm a sucker for anything old-school Web, I've been working on a Digg 1.0 rehash for a while now so if any of you wants to beta test let me know.

Since you were much closer to it than a bit of google would reveal, can I ask you— what killed Digg?

User hostile redesigns that ultimately (after several redesigns) alienated users.

Not unlike what's happening to Reddit these days.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by meerita » Tue, Jun 13, 2023, 12:29 PM UTC

TeMPOraL wrote: post #452

meerita wrote: post #414

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dropbox redesign just downgraded the good UX they had in favor of hipster design style.

Do you mean the website uglification around when they launched "Dropbox Paper" or whatever that thing was called, or the earlier redesign towards toy-like appearance, that happened around the time they also dropped the Public folder? Because that last bit - dropping the Public folder - was when Dropbox lost a good chunk of its value to end users.

The design was not the sole factor contributing to the decline of the product company. The removal of the public folder and other product decisions significantly expedited the company's decline.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by AltruisticGapHN » Tue, Jun 13, 2023, 2:36 PM UTC

GaggiX wrote: post #316

AltruisticGapHN wrote: post #311

Could this be the ramifications of AI though? (edit: I mean, in light of StackOverflow also changing their policies recently) Not only are the LLMs like GPT effectively doing scraping like never before, without any legal oversight, AI is also automating and causing much more pressure on those social sites. The future is bleak, LLMs are going to destroy what little "Far West" we still had and turn all the open sites i…

AIs, in particular LLM models, are not scraping the internet, that's done by traditional software.

Oh come on. You know what I mean. Companies like OpenAI are basically appropriating value created by others by feeding the so called "public" data into their LLMs. Therefore stealing content on a massive scale. You and I are not getting rewarded a single cent for all the time we spent on StackOverflow, or Reddit, or here on HN etc.

I´m looking at the big picture here.

So what I was trying to say is I can see how more and more social sites and services that have open APIs are going to rethink how they share their data seeing as all the value is being sucked dry out of them AND then repurposed as a new, privately owned product.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by astrange » Tue, Jun 13, 2023, 9:36 PM UTC

circo wrote: post #367

astrange wrote: post #321

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, whether the user is sympathetic or not isn't important, and I don't think there's anything noble about punishing users you don't like. It's just a misconception about what's important in internet forums. If you're a random free account you sometimes get nobly sacrificed (via admin abuse) for the entertainment of the masses and thus benefit society as a whole. Basically, it's PvP. This is pretty obvious from the d…

If you base your social conduct entirely on what's legal and illegal, you'll become a pariah very fast. Spez is the perfect example of this. His editing of the comments cemented his reputation as corrupt and stupid, and from then on everything he communicated towards the community received a much stronger backlash than it otherwise would have, regardless of how unpopular the decision actually was.

This is confusing "the community" with "overly engaged parts of the community".

Normal reddit users don't know any inside baseball facts about the site. The normal users are those people who post the same basic "women, what's the sexiest sex you ever sexed?" questions on askreddit once a week.

Of course, their site design makes this a problem since it relies on mods, who are specifically that kind of person since they do it for free.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by ethics13 » Wed, Jun 14, 2023, 2:02 PM UTC

marban wrote: post #77

I was the creator of the OG Popurls which at the time was the #1 traffic driver for Reddit and Digg; and also created Twidroid the very first Android Twitter client which became one of the reasons for shutting down 3rd party apps after its acquisition. Since I'm a sucker for anything old-school Web, I've been working on a Digg 1.0 rehash for a while now so if any of you wants to beta test let me know.

I'll take it for a spin.