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Re: Web fingerprinting is worse than I thought

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Post by someotherperson »

ThePowerOfFuet wrote: post #463
someotherperson wrote: post #460

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No you don't get it. He was a "creep" aka should be cancelled wholesale on everything /s The only questionable thing he did was try to rationalise pedophilia, which he has since changed his mind about. Given that he's clearly _not all there in the head_ (i.e neurodiverse) and assuming he hasn't tried to access child pornography or similar I couldn't care less. All of the other accusations against him are nonsense[0]…

> Given that he's clearly _not all there in the head_ (i.e neurodiverse) Neurodiverse people are "not all there in the head"? gtfo.

That's right, the guy who sits down, takes off his socks and eats his toenails/toe skin in the middle of a Q&A[0] shouldn't be held to some ambiguous standard of how to navigate society.

It's exactly this eggshell stepping that people are expected to adhere to that has people treating him the way they are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ&t=110s

Re: Web fingerprinting is worse than I thought

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Post by anthk »

szundi wrote: post #224
zamubafoo wrote: post #63

As the years pass, I keep thinking back and realize that Richard Stallman was right all along: > For personal reasons, I do not browse the web from my computer. (I also have not net connection much of the time.) To look at page I send mail to a demon which runs wget and mails the page back to me. It is very efficient use of my time, but it is slow in real time.

Hard to watch netflix or YouTube whis way. Considering I have just learned electronics design from YouTube, this is inconvenient.

I use DilloNG, an Invidious instance and mpv being called from the page with a right button click.

Re: Web fingerprinting is worse than I thought

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Post by anthk »

Dah00n wrote: post #205
kuschku wrote: post #189

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Not if you disable JS, cause the website then can't see any of these customizations.

You are easily tracked without JS. It is much easier than tracking a default settings browser.

Good luck with Lynx/Dillo with a fake UA.

Re: Web fingerprinting is worse than I thought

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Post by jonhohle »

TheRealDunkirk wrote: post #446
jonhohle wrote: post #357

Until everyday people realize they’re being stalked, I don’t know what will change. I am seriously thinking about trying to go through the proposition process in my state to forbid selling of data (this should already run afoul of wiretapping laws, imho). I thought having an ad campaign that targeted subgroups very specifically and boldly might be enough drum up public interest. Something like: “Hello $name from $cit…

> Until everyday people realize they’re being stalked, I don’t know what will change. FTFY: People already know; nothing will change. Many of the things that are happening (at least in the US) are deeply, deeply unpopular, but are not changing, and show no signs that they are even susceptible to change. Fortune-sized companies, the 1%, and the deep state are calling the shots, despite how much can be seen in real tim…

That’s why I, unfortunately, think legislation is necessary. My state allows citizen proposals with 250k signatures to get on ballot and >50% support to become law that cannot be overturned by the legislature (that has its own issues, but in this case it would be binding).

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Post by Firmwarrior »

warner25 wrote: post #415
Firmwarrior wrote: post #398

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Yeah man, I think that's the only way anything is going to change People are such dumb fucking cattle that they'll lash out at you rather than the data brokers or the software vendors who ratted them out though

> they'll lash out at you Not only that, but they might have a legal case against you. I've been slowly working through Seek and Hide: The Tangled History of the Right to Privacy , and my main takeaways have been: (1) The constitutional right to free speech and a free press is not as broad as most people probably think. (2) Truth is not necessarily an air-tight defense in a case of libel, as courts at various times a…

Maybe the trick would be to put it into a security envelope so you don't disclose anything.. although I personally love the idea of printing it on a postcard, since it's practically public record once a data broker gets his filthy paws on it anyway

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Post by iudqnolq »

stefncb wrote: post #307
iudqnolq wrote: post #90

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They narrowed me down to an order of magnitude less based on just my browser user agent (latest Firefox Android). I'm not sure what that actually means.

I'm guessing it means people don't use Firefox, and people _really_ don't use Firefox android.

Nope their database is 40% Firefox.

Re: Web fingerprinting is worse than I thought

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Post by kuschku »

reaperducer wrote: post #246
kuschku wrote: post #189

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Not if you disable JS, cause the website then can't see any of these customizations.

Not if you disable JS, cause the website then can't see any of these customizations. That's adorable. I guess you're not old enough to remember when we used to track people with things like invisible pixels. Or todays equivalent: testing CSS parameters. Neither require JavaScript, and there are a hundred other non-JavaScript methods.

With that method, you won't be able to distinguish between the many different devices using the same browser at same resolution behind one IP.

In the era of CGNAT that means you now only know which city I'm from and whether I use Chrome or Firefox. People mostly use browsers in maximized and resolutions are relatively standardized nowadays.

Compared to the data you get from canvas and webgl, that's much less unique.

Re: Web fingerprinting is worse than I thought

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Post by jb1991 »

vesinisa wrote: post #462
jb1991 wrote: post #92

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How does the fingerprinting know the payment method you used to pay for the computer, is that stored somewhere in the operating system? How would they know it was a dead drop also? Genuinely curious.

It's just a precaution for when they eventually breach your OS and dig out the machine's serial number from the BIOS. This will allow them to trace you to the reseller you used. But if you ordered to a dead drop in a random country and paid with a different cryptocurrency network each time THEY gain exactly zero information to profile you. That, or the game against pervasive web tracking is lost.

This is actually very useful information. I think I know how I’m going to buy my next computer, but I wonder which manufacturers support the drop as a shipping option?
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