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YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki is stepping down

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Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki is stepping down

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post #51

- increasingly ignores your search keywords, instead shoving unrelated stuff at you - removed ability to sort videos by date - removed dislikes what else.....youtube UX has being getting worse for a few years.

In the early days, YouTube had a 5 star rating system which I think is better than a binary like/dislike. You also could customize your channel more including custom backgrounds.

Turns out 5 star ratings provide little or no useful signal beyond like/dislike/views.

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki is stepping down

#472
post #454

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Premium moved me from being a consumer of a content made by big companies (including movies, and most of the shows) towards more independent content creators. I couldn't be more happy about it.

How do YouTube creators get paid from premium subscribers, is it fractions of a cent per minute watched or something?

Yes they get a separate stream from premium

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki is stepping down

#473

YouTube for the things I enjoy has improved dramatically because the comment section is vastly improved. Everyone used to use YouTube comments as an example of a comment section dumpster fire, but they fixed it. I've seen the recommendations get better then worse then better again as they tweaked the algorithms. Right now it's better than it's ever been. Again, for me. One complaint: I like to upload interesting clip…

They're 'better' in tone, but for many videos the comments come across as very sycophantic which is a bit tiresome. That's not always the case though, so probably depends to some extent on the channel's community.

Yes. They’ve explicitly downranked criticism (they posted about it on Twitter maybe a year ago) and with the removal of downvotes, it’s much harder to quickly figure out how good is the video.

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki is stepping down

#474
post #206

Can I get my dislike button back now? Youtube has been a significantly worse place since that.

I've been using the Return YouTube Dislike extension[0] for a couple of weeks now and it seems to be working surprisingly well (due to the relatively large user base probably, surprised it hasn't been mentioned here). It uses a combination of dislike data of other users of the extension combined with data from older videos which still have dislike count accessible through the API.

And yeah, hiding the dislike count was an extremely weird/annoying move, given that it was a good quality indicator which is now completely gone. It doesn't matter if a video has 1M likes if it has 3M dislikes, in which case it probably sucks. Nor are you misled to believe a video with only 3k likes is bad if it doesn't have more than 22 dislikes.

As with everything you should keep context in mind. For example if you're watching a video on a political topic (or by a controversial character) then the ratio will be more even, even for high quality videos. But the point is: Give the user the information, don't assume they are dumb.

[0] Links for Chrome/Firefox/etc: https://returnyoutubedislike.com/install

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki is stepping down

#475
post #391

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Would it have a negative impact on the businesses who promote those videos? Yes. If it's a negative impact on the businesses who promote videos, how can you say your idea doesn't impact content creators?

Why would it have a negative impact on either the promoted businesses or the content creators? Promoted businesses currently pay based on (an estimate of) the number of views that the video will get. This would trivially adjust to paying based on the number of views that the sponsorship within the video gets -- that's why I mentioned the requirement to make this available through analytics. If the cost per view stays…

So, you appear to dismiss my concerns completely, demand a feature, and then insist... that hardly anyone will use it? And that because hardly anyone will use it, that means promoters are safe... unless they're not, in which case, they had it coming?

A sponsor pays $10,000 to a content creator.

And then, they get zero views of their embedded ad in the video.

They got literally nothing for their $10,000 investment.

And let's say, for the sake of argument, that YouTube does not pay $10,000 for the same video, or ones like it.

Now, the content creator gets less money than they would have before.

It's almost like content creators have already done this calculus, and concluded that the best way to create content is to promote things.

It's funny to me when someone is like, "Why doesn't YouTube do X," and then they answer their own question, but then they still act like it's weird that YouTube doesn't do that thing.

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki is stepping down

#476
post #389

YouTube for the things I enjoy has improved dramatically because the comment section is vastly improved. Everyone used to use YouTube comments as an example of a comment section dumpster fire, but they fixed it. I've seen the recommendations get better then worse then better again as they tweaked the algorithms. Right now it's better than it's ever been. Again, for me. One complaint: I like to upload interesting clip…

Agreed on the copyright issues! I got a strike for a short screen cast / video I made to demo a new feature I built to my boss -- it wasn't public, you had to have the link but I happened to feature some music (maybe 45-60 seconds) and it got taken down. Similarly I see YT content creators asking people to turn off their FM radios lest they end up with copyrighted music in their videos. Surely both of these cases are…

They are but YouTube applies their own logic that is stricter than actual copyright law in most cases, just to avoid being sued into oblivion by media producers.

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki is stepping down

#478
post #462

Discovery sucks on it, I feel like walking into an echo chamber everytime I go in

what platform is not an echo chamber?

For example, if you don't want to read tangentially related pet peeves every time bigtechco is in the news, you stop coming to HN. You stop coming to HN, and only complainers are left.

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki is stepping down

#480
post #454

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Premium moved me from being a consumer of a content made by big companies (including movies, and most of the shows) towards more independent content creators. I couldn't be more happy about it.

How do YouTube creators get paid from premium subscribers, is it fractions of a cent per minute watched or something?

There is a pot of money that is split between creators based off relative watch time by people with YouTube premium.
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