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Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by Swizec »

qzw wrote: post #324
Swizec wrote: post #273

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> "cleaning up" rough bullet points into a coherent paragraph of text As a reader of people's paragraphs, please don't. Stick to bullet points.

I'm sure you can have ChatGPT turn a paragraph into bullet points for you. Repeating that n times would be an interesting variation on the game of Telephone.

I have long joked/theorized that the future of communication is bots writing for bots.

   1. Person has brilliant insight
   2. Insight is 3 bullet points
   3. GPT expands into prose (because that's what people think people want)
   4. Reader sees paragraph, thinks "Bah that's long"
   5. Reader uses GPT to extract the 3 core bullet points
I think the most important lesson of anyone's first job is that you have to stop writing like you're in school. There is no minimum word requirement. Only maximum.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by ghaff »

Forgeties79 wrote: post #379
blagie wrote: post #356

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I don't care what they're getting as much as I care about what I'm getting. If I have a nice dual-monitor setup, in a business where everyone gets a 19" Dell, I will be more productive. That will lead to more promotions, lower odds of being fired, etc. I will come out ahead. Plus, I'll be happier. If my employer benefits too, how does that hurt me?

Fair enough! I don't fully agree but it's a matter of opinion ultimately. Was just answering your question as I see it.

I haven't worked in an office in years, but in my case it's travel. The company has travel policies that are what they are. If I'm going to spend my own money and points to upgrade to travel that is outside of policy, well I'll do that. I might object if company policy were to travel baggage-class but it's really not. So I'll pay out-of-pocket here and there.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by throwaway4aday »

idiotsecant wrote: post #390
newguynewphone wrote: post #271

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I had a partner that was being charged about 8k$ to solve a ruby problem that copilot answered with a couple of prompts (took a couple of hours but still..) I'm pretty certain that unless you are in machine learning, your job will be replaced soon enough

The hard part of programming was always gathering requirements accurately and architecting a solution to meet those requirements. All this does is automate out the easier parts. (Almost) nobody is hand-crafting screws and nails anymore. It doesn't mean that those people don't have something to do, we just produce many more screws and nails at a much higher quality than before. The people do other things at a higher l…

Exactly, nail making used to be a profession in itself so much that there is a German surname Nagelmacher which is literally Nail Maker. Don't see many of them around nowadays unless they own a factory that produces nails.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by pedalpete »

I use ChatGPT a bit, and I definitely see the value, however, the way they are pitching this seems more like they are giving you the option to help further train the system - "challenge incorrect assumptions".

It is currently valuable, but I only use it maybe once a week. However, built into other products like Canva, that's where I see the real opportunity for me.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by throwaway4aday »

rm_-rf_slash wrote: post #263
Kiro wrote: post #234

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You underestimate how powerful it already is. Have you tried Copilot or coding with ChatGPT? If this is the very first iteration it won't be long before many developers are fully replaced.

Generative code models trained on buggy, unmaintainable code snippets resulting in a buggy, unmaintainable codebase that only the model can manage. Genius.

Exec: Fix the login bug in production.

ChatGPT: There is no login bug in production.

Exec: Yes there is, run the login integration test.

ChatGPT: The test passes.

Exec: But I can't log in!

ChatGPT: Works for me.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by drc500free »

popol12 wrote: post #373
drc500free wrote: post #366

I did a LinkedIn poll last week of what people would pay for ChatGPT Plus. Small N and limited to my social network, but I think it shows that $20 isn't the right final price and code generation isn't the best use case: ChatGPT is exploring a paid model. What's the most that would you/your employer would be willing to pay per user for a ChatGPT subscription? It's fun, but not worth money 14 (35%) What's interesting i…

Or they just have higher income and can afford to pay that much

I wondered if that was the case, but having extra discretionary income doesn't explain the dead space between $20 and $100. It's a pretty bimodal distribution, and the directors/VPs aren't all making 5-10x what a mid-level eng does.

They definitely do more communicating and less creating. They also seem more willing to invest cash rather than just time into their careers. I'm sure having extra income doesn't hurt, though.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by evo_9 »

wcoenen wrote: post #315
evo_9 wrote: post #240

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Ok then what? I keep saying what I said to my dad 10 years+ back - once we automate ALL jobs out of existence be that 10 years or 100 years from now, how does society / monetary systems change? What comes next? UBI at best is a stopgap.

> how does society / monetary systems change? What comes next? UBI at best is a stopgap. Money is an abstraction used to manage scarce resources. The fact that resources are scarce is never going to change, because we live in a world with finite space, mass and usable energy. UBI does not seem incompatible with that. It's just a system (on top of the abstraction of money) to allocate scarce resources. Why do you thin…

I disagree on your point that resources will remain scarce. That's true of earth, but long-term, which is really what I'm getting at, that's not the case. We aren't even that far off from mining nearby asteroids; give humanity 100 years, and who knows what we'll be up to.

UBI is a stopgap in that it just extends the current system by giving away money; eventually we'll need to move past 'money' somehow.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by [deleted] »

mahathu wrote: post #211
Synaesthesia wrote: post #159

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How could it be dangerous? How could it be used as a weapon?

Targeted spread of fake news on social media, automating websites that appear on the surface like local news stations that don't exist in real life, ... EDIT: also manipulation of wikipedia articles using proxies and hard to verify sources.

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Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by samstave »

kolinko wrote: post #466
johtso wrote: post #401

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I think there's also an argument to be made that $20 per month is a bigger deal than some people realise. The issue isn't just _that one_ specific subscription you're paying for. The issue is how they all accumulate over time.. and eventually you find that your metaphorical bucket of money has turned into a leaky sieve. Not to mention all the services you forget to unsubscribe from even though they've ceased to provi…

Sure, but with some things, the increase in productivity pays off the price easily - you end up earning more, or working way less. $20/mo for a subscription of NYT, or Netflix is not one of those things. But ChatGPT in many cases can save whole days of work over each month, so - especially when you're a freelancer, it will pay itself off.

>>you end up earning more, or working way less.

Or you're just treading water.

Not everyone gains some super power productivity or an excess of free time when utilizing tools...

Some people just being able to actually scrape by BECAUSE of said tools.

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