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Technically it's Amazon's money, not yours. You can't write the donations off on your taxes, for example.

Maybe I'm out of the loop but why not?

Because it is not your donation - it is Amazon's donation out of their profit from products you purchased. You just got to (allegedly) specify where they donated it.

Re: Amazon Closing AmazonSmile

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> I got the impression their warehouses were pretty damn good compared to other warehouses This is the correct impression. Amazon warehouses are almost always a step up in both pay and quality of life vs. the other local employment options. Source: many friends work(ed) the industry. Amazon was seen as trading your autonomy in for a better overall place to work. The memes about their warehouses being the worst in the…

Ex con here, lived in the halfway house. No one, and I mean NO ONE took Amazon warehouse jobs. And that is saying a lot. We took jobs with metrics requiring we pull 60 pieces of cardboard per minute out of garbage and trash from a 75mph conveyor belt over working Amazon. We had to wear kevlar glove 'sharps' protection so the needles in the trash didn't poke us and give us HIV. This was still preferred over Amazon war…

I've noticed two personality types on this one. Those that don't mind trading one sort of "shitty" working conditions like you describe (challenging/dangerous work), because for lack of a better term you are treated like actual human beings.

The other personality I've noticed is someone who prefers a much more "sane" (boring but very predictable work) working environment with a ton of rules around it. They enjoy being treated more like robots.

I could be projecting here, but I've seen more than a dozen or so datapoints - of course directly connected to my personal bubble so there is bias at play.

I'd absolutely never take an Amazon warehouse job. I'd be looking at jobs like you describe.

Re: Amazon Closing AmazonSmile

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That's truest of the big ones, imo. "Power corrupts" etc., even when that power is a non-profit. I upvoted you since the sentiment is correct. The nice thing about AmazonSmile is that you could pick from the small ones you know well and trust. Now, Amazon will donate to the biggest ones without our choice, which is definitely worse.

>Now, Amazon will donate to the biggest ones without our choice, which is definitely worse. Worse, Amazon has set up their own charities to donate to.

My eyes glossed over those, good catch.

Re: Amazon Closing AmazonSmile

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> "our ability to have an impact was often spread too thin" If that's the supposed reason, I call bullshit. Could've just reduced the number of charities.

The real reason is "our profit margins are currently spread too thin" but they can't say that because it'd make Amazon look really bad in terms of PR. Amazon is currently looking to cut stuff that costs Amazon money and something that reduces their tax liability is also bad for PR if it means that Amazon pays little or no taxes.

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I haven't bought anything from Amazon in years and you shouldn't either. Buying things from them supports slave labor, union busting, and low wages.

Any source on that slave labor claim? Or low wages? As far as I know, Amazon warehouses pay well. I'm not sure how well drivers are paid though.

Re: Amazon Closing AmazonSmile

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I think this is a little short-sighted on Amazon's part. PTA/PTOs were onboarding loyal Amazon customers via Amazon Smile because of the fundraising. In the last PTO I was involved with, Smile accounted for about 2% of our donations ($3000/year = ~$150K in household spending from our school). To put that in perspective, about 90% of our $150K annual fund raise was direct donations from parents and local businesses, A…

Kinda off topic but why do grade school kids need a MacBook air?

Good question. My elementary school/middle school had Macs. Even as a young child, I thought the appropriation of funds for that seemed wrong. I can’t think of a legitimate reason a school district needs luxury computers for children that are likely to spill stuff or otherwise ruin them.

Re: Amazon Closing AmazonSmile

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I haven't bought anything from Amazon in years and you shouldn't either. Buying things from them supports slave labor, union busting, and low wages.

Lower cost of operation leads to lower costs of goods for the average consumer. Net win in the end, as economic resources are utilized more effciently.

Same reason we use 3$/hour labor to make clothes rather than $30/hour. How much would clothing cost then?

Is it fair to burden the working poor with prohibitively expensive goods to raise wages beyond a market equilibrium level? No, not really. Decades of economic analysis to corroborate this viewpoint.

Though there will always be a winner and a loser with shifts in income. Can be cases where it makes sense to advantage some groups at the expense of another, even if it's less optimal in a total sense

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