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Amazon to Lay Off over 17,000 Workers, More Than First Planned

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Re: Amazon to Lay Off over 17,000 Workers, More Than First Planned

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First experience with the US immigration process, eh?

FWIW, it does not seem like an uncommon reaction. My wife had a similar questions bordering on disbelief, when I was giving her a glimpse of current US immigration system based on my experience alone.

It's pretty wild. I'm a US citizen, and getting my Japanese wife a green card took years and thousands of dollars. I wish people understood how ridiculous the system is before they went out and voted about it.

Stuff like how the government would just randomly send me a letter and say "Hey, asshole, give us another $800." In my case it's like "OK" but for most Americans living paycheck-to-paycheck that would be a catastrophic event

Re: Amazon to Lay Off over 17,000 Workers, More Than First Planned

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I haven't worked there, but I got the impression going back decades that Amazon is a terrible place to work. That said, I have a friend who worked there and had really only positive things to say. And he quit the valley startup where we both worked when things became rocky there, and went back to a different job at Amazon. So YMMV it seems.

>I haven't worked there, but I got the impression going back decades that Amazon is a terrible place to work. That said, I have a friend who worked there and had really only positive things to say. I've heard the same thing about them. I think it's a place where certain kinds of people like to work, for a while, because it pays well and looks great on a resume, and they don't mind working long hours to do that kind o…

When I worked there, it was a hell of a lot less stressful than the startups I'd worked for before that, where the company was always just a couple of months away from disaster. Once I picked up Financial Independence habits, my life was a breeze (even though the job itself was a techno-bureaucratic nightmare straight out of a Dilbert strip)

Re: Amazon to Lay Off over 17,000 Workers, More Than First Planned

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Nearly 20 years ago, when I was trying to find HR for my first day, there was an older man talking with them already. He said, and I quote, 'Fuck you all, I got your exit interview right here' while grabbing his crotch. He turned to walk away, smirked at me, and said 'what? I'm retired now.' Point being, I don't think you were the only one who didn't love the company 10 years ago.

Plenty of folks didn't, but even in the 90s and 2000s there was still a good reason to play ball, esp. if you were in a white collar STEM field. Dude might have grabbed his crotch on the way out, but he probably made $$$$$ for 20-30 years. Modern hires deal with just as much BS but often for lower pay and less long-term stability.

What, your company doesn’t give a pension?

Re: Amazon to Lay Off over 17,000 Workers, More Than First Planned

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> There are zero openings. How does this prove it’s not shutdown? Since when does having zero openings mean that a team is shut down? Sometimes teams are staffed enough to not need more people at the moment, so they will post a job opening whenever there is a need for it. A specific personal example: my org had a period of a couple of months with no openings in late second half of last year, simply because we didn't…

> Since when does having zero openings mean that a team is shut down? This is not a claim that anyone made. The claim was that an ad for zero openings doesn't prove a team hasn't shut down.

> an ad for zero openings doesn't prove a team hasn't shut down.

If that's what the argument actually was trying to say, then I fully agree with it, makes perfect sense.

Re: Amazon to Lay Off over 17,000 Workers, More Than First Planned

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My favorite interview question was "Do you know Leetcode?". I said yes and prepared my brain for the problem-solving portion of the interview. But no. That was the question with no follow-up. One of the two got sent back to the offshore team and even eventually to the offshore's offshore team, and the other guy got sent back but then somehow returned to the onshore offshore team.

Who are "these guys"?

"Canadiens"

Re: Amazon to Lay Off over 17,000 Workers, More Than First Planned

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Also Australia. From the outside (and this could well be the wrong take), it seems as though “at will employment” leads to cultural problems. People are afraid to speak their mind, and hierarchy becomes dominant. I like that Australia is a bit more egalitarian, and people can “speak truth to power”.

Having worked salary jobs in tech in both countries, I can tell you that hierarchies are a much bigger thing in Germany than in the U.S. In tech companies as well as in academia, FWIW. Her Professor, Herr Direktor, these are actually still a thing in Germany.

You might want to rephrase that because the way you stated it just seems kinda silly, as if somehow titled-obsessed idiots don't exist in US companies or something...

Re: Amazon to Lay Off over 17,000 Workers, More Than First Planned

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There would be a lot fewer recruiters, and more experienced engineers. Also a less monolithic tech culture. Right now every employee is more or less compatible across every company because we all seek to be transferable

There also would be less innovation as there would be less cross-pollination.

Arguable. Too much cross pollination leads to super-monoculture.

It's important to have distinct subcultures to progressultiple fronts sometimes.

Re: Amazon to Lay Off over 17,000 Workers, More Than First Planned

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Prime Air is not shut down, we're working on it and expanding. Can't post too many details, but we are actively delivering to customers in test markets today. A publically released video from a few months ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bDyeUiWL3M&ab_channel=amazo... Source: I'm an SDE at Prime Air.

Can’t wait to shoot them down!

Please use a net or "counter drone" in that case.

Re: Amazon to Lay Off over 17,000 Workers, More Than First Planned

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I don't see a huge difference between $60k and $77k for instance, and it all depends on your actual job offers. Regardless, while I don't disagree with your facts, the original claim (not by you) was that Japan had a "hostile immigration policy that is against permanency". This is false, and sounds like a lie in fact, unless the OP just woke up from cryo-sleep after being frozen in 1985. Sure, there are real challeng…

Agreed that GP's comment is innacurate on that point, but... Are you White? That's the differentiatng factor. If you're of South Asian or Chinese or SE Asian origin (not even nationality, origin), you face much less microagressions in other countries than you do in Japan. In general, factoring in CoL and the insular culture, Europe and other Asian countries tend to make sense. Heck, when I was backpacking out in Isan…

"Microaggressions"? Asian people in the US are getting physically attacked, brutally, in the streets. That doesn't happen in Japan.

Anyway, I don't know why you keep talking about this kind of thing. I'm addressing ease of immigration, not how welcoming people are in particular countries. The whole thread was started because someone outright lied about immigration laws, and you keep talking about culture, which has nothing to do with the discussion.

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