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Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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In the spirit of trying to be high-information and add value: Where Musk is going, there are no maps. So it's very very hard to project. But we can predict likely developments. At a very high level, it's going to involve: bringing back controversial personalities like Donald Trump; increasing Twitter's commitment to 'free speech'; assuaging skittish advertisers; retaining users who might be concerned, while bringing…

Most people are focused on censorship/content issues, but I really think the X.com "mega app" vision is the most significant part of this. It'll be hard to gain a foothold in those markets, and there'll be antitrust challenges, but it really fits perfectly with the rest of Musk's vision: X.com Maps could tie in with Teslas, X.com Carhailing could tie-in with (future) full self-driving; Twitter could be expanded to be…

>> There's no attempt to create a single, wide-ranging social media platform, with payments, video, shorts, DMs, and more

Umm.. Facebook? Just offering all those features doesn't mean much though, you really have to be dominant in each one, since there's much less moat to debundling consumer apps vs enterprise

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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The reason why Musk eventually bought Twitter, when he did, and at the price he paid, was to avoid having to testify under oath in the lawsuit against him. He was going to be deposed, exposed, and in the end he was also going to lose and suffer the indignity of having to pay a high price for something he fiercely said he didn't want anymore. Better bite the bullet earlier than later. Now that doesn't explain why he w…

He said exactly why he bought Twitter. Yet you dismiss his reasons out of hand. Don’t even mention them in your analysis. And presents this theory of a very reactive, fearful personality who is motivated by money and has little vision for the future. (People will agree with you. Because the question they ask is: “How is Elon Musk a smaller person than I am?”. They ask that not because they want to understand. But bec…

> He said exactly why he bought Twitter.

Yeah. There are too many bots and therefore he doesn't want to buy Twitter. In fact, Twitter is lying about their bot numbers, so please Mrs. Judge, don't force me to buy Twitter. Its such a bad value no one should buy it at $44 Billion.

Also, I don't wanna do the deposition Mrs. Judge, I'll go through with the $44 Billion transaction. Also, I wanna buy Twitter now and its going to be amazing and called "X", the everything company. Please get Twitter's lawyers off of me and don't drag me through this trial anymore.

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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- That is not a kitchen sink

- Twitter is a telegraph office. Journalists love twitter because it makes their job easier by stealing stories/news from each other. For the world outside media twitter is pretty much meh.

- Musk unbanning someone doesnt mean much. trump might have sent out tweets with carrier pigeons and the mass media would still pick it up because it sells. twitter bans have very little effect, from the covid misinformation to ukraine stuff

- Twitter is not even cool , why is musk so obsessed about it? he will be spending a ton of time in media battles that are pointless , truly

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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They need to re-free up the API. Early adopters and hackers really did some great work using the API until they walled-gardened it and rate limited it to make it unusable. They need to do this for goodwill at the very least, but I think it will spark the fire to make it popular with techies again. Based on the recently published discovery chats we will probably see: * High def video * Focus on music publication * The…

I think it's going to be more in the other direction. He really hates the bots, so he'll probably close up the API. Until bots gets solved, no developer should expect the API to open up.

The only thing that can stop a bad guy with an API (besides policy and moderation) is a good guy with an API. Some of the very best misinfo research and tooling came from academics having access to firehose data.

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- That is not a kitchen sink - Twitter is a telegraph office. Journalists love twitter because it makes their job easier by stealing stories/news from each other. For the world outside media twitter is pretty much meh. - Musk unbanning someone doesnt mean much. trump might have sent out tweets with carrier pigeons and the mass media would still pick it up because it sells. twitter bans have very little effect, from t…

Who claimed it was a kitchen sink?

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I find it really distracting that the mainstream media writes about Musk in such derisive style. Do journalists find him threatening in some way? Do the leftwing-dominated media resent him for supporting Republicans? Do they think we’re not smart enough to critically appraise Musk ourselves?

Derision is the minimum-investment method for participating in a conversation. You expend a speck of opinion, you get a speck of attention. I guess the numbers work out better than "just ignore".

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I have what is probably an unpopular opinion. I would like to see two things happen: 1. more people use and support by generating content platforms like Mastodon where there is some expectation of privacy and openness. I like Mastodon. 2. I also like Twitter, and I would like to see it a more self regulated platform, with some form of effective real ID, probably charging $1 to $2 dollars a month for its use. This mig…

There needs to be some form of sybil resistance, perhaps allowing unlimited post size, but charging 1 cent per character. Spam needs to be expensive. The users should be allowed to decide for themselves what they see. My perspective is that hate speech is basically an identical problem to spam. If you can solve spam, you solve hate speech and self-advertisements and whole other classes of problem. Also, it's a social…

I like your idea of charging 1 or 2 cents per character.

I forgot that Twitter already requires a phone number for registration. My phone number is not public, but I definitely use my real name, put my location, and try to send people to my web site by posting that link.

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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As a developer with a few years of commercial Scala experience I’ve been approached by Twitter in the past.

Working there appealed on many levels. They have a lot of Scala talent and a huge influence on world affairs. I turned down the interview request though, because I suspected l’d feel marginalised working at Twitter. My views do not align with leftism/authoritarianism/groupthink/TheCurrentThing, and it’s clear to me that Twitter leans in those directions. Their handling of discussion the Hunter Biden laptop story was sinister beyond belief, and for them to leave Taliban accounts up while banning the democratically-elected leader of the free world just beggars belief.

Knowing Elon Musk is in charge makes Twitter appealing to me now. Musk is a visionary. His achievements and capability speak for themselves. He is a rocket scientist, electrical engineer, mechanical engineer, mathematician and computer scientist. Self taught. And he has a sense of humour and doesn’t take himself seriously. Not many CEOs have these qualities. Not many companies have the reputation of SpaceX and Tesla. I’d be proud to work for Twitter under Musk.

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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- That is not a kitchen sink - Twitter is a telegraph office. Journalists love twitter because it makes their job easier by stealing stories/news from each other. For the world outside media twitter is pretty much meh. - Musk unbanning someone doesnt mean much. trump might have sent out tweets with carrier pigeons and the mass media would still pick it up because it sells. twitter bans have very little effect, from t…

Who claimed it was a kitchen sink?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2022-10-27/why-did-elo...

https://news.yahoo.com/elon-musk-shows-twitter-hq-192220624....

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/elon-musk-shows-up-at-twit...

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-63408384

in twitter fashion i should tag this as #fakenews

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