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Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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> smaller laptops like the Macbook Air iPad Pro 12.9” as external second hidpi/retina monitor for Macbook is remarkable in three modes - USB-C to USB-C for all day powered zero latency extended desktop - WiFi for cable free extended desktop - keyboard mouse sharing (by pushing your Macbook cursor against the side of your laptop screen by the iPad, till it “pops” onto the iPad) for seamlessly running Macbook apps and…

Also considerably more expensive than a monitor.

And considerably worse in every way, especially compared to modern OLEDs and high refresh rate LCDs.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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The Galaxy Z Flip 3 has been a massive hit, and the much more expensive Fold 3 has likewise seen unexpectedly high sales: https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/samsung-sold-more-foldables...

How do you define "massive hit"? That article cited an estimate of 9M foldable smartphones being sold in 2021 - compared to 1.4B total smartphone sales last year (~1.12B just looking at Android). That's less than 1%, no?

You should compare them to the ultra premium category. These devices aren't competing with the massive majority of cheap androids.

Given that Samsung sold around 20-25 million S21s, it is absolutely a massive hit.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Looks fancy. Is this what the market wants? I don't particularly like Apple, but I use a Macbook Pro. I've been keeping an eye out for a non-Apple alternative to a Macbook, but nothing seems to come close in terms of hardware. I don't mean technical specs. I mean a beautiful screen, reasonable dimensions & weight, a really good touchpad, great battery life, etc. A big foldable screen looks cool, but doesn't feel at a…

There are plenty of non-Apple alternatives to the MBP. Plenty of laptops with a 6800U or 6800H. None of them have better trackpads, but plenty have nice ones and significantly better keyboards. And some have OLED or 240Hz screens which I'd say are better than the ones in the MacBook Pro. Any laptop with that processor and a reasonable 65Wh+ battery is going to have great battery life.

Some even have great graphics cards, or touchscreens with pen support, or mechanical keyboards, etc... ASUS even makes a few laptops in this category (some of them are branded as gaming laptops but really do everything you want).

The issue with PC laptops isn't that there is no competition for the MBP. It's just that it's very confusing and that there are literally hundreds of options and only 5-6 models that will do what you want.

There are a lot of

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Sadly, Qualcom's performance is still laughable compared to Apple's M1. You can get a Macbook air for around the same price that runs twice as fast (and probably has better speakers). If you intend to run Windows, you'll also run into slower x64 applications more often than with a Mac. I'm really not sure what the advantage would be for picking a Qualcom processor over getting an i3 or lower end AMD APU. Someone real…

> Someone really needs to step up ARM processor design because no matter how much I detest Apple's business practices, I can't deny that their ARM chip is far superior to the rest of the market Never going to happen unless regulators do something about Qualcomm's monopoly. Apple is pretty much the only company with the resources to fight them, yet they still can't get away from Qualcomm parts even in their latest iPh…

> Never going to happen unless regulators do something about Qualcomm's monopoly. Apple is pretty much the only company with the resources to fight them, yet they still can't get away from Qualcomm parts even in their latest iPhones.

The regulators would be hard-pressed as they have nothing to regulate. Qualcomm doesn't have a monopoly on the ARM ISA. Samsung, Mediatek, Fujitsu, Intel, Nvidia, AMD, etc. all have licenses. Even Microsoft and Google have designed their own ARM processors.

Qualcomm has nothing to do with ARM aside from being a licensee itself. Apple's contentions with Qualcomm center on, inter alia Qualcomm's already awarded patents on cellular modems and the licensing fees it charges Apple.

> If it wasn't for Qualcomm, I think powerful ARM workstations would've arrived much, much sooner (among other innovations). But of course, monopolies are an enemy of innovation.

Intel already tried with StrongARM/XScale to little noteworthy success. Nvidia has achieved limited success with Tegra, but mainly in automotive dashboards and their Shield boxes. All of this is the free market at work. Qualcomm isn't necessary for ARM laptops to fail and his historically had little to do with it.

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On a phone yes, on a "desktop" OS losing resolution often also means being able to display less stuff.

In 2022 scaling mostly works.

I have a 4K screen with Windows 10. Some apps look great, some have really blurry text, some have really tiny UIs (or a comical mix of tiny and normal sized). This last category includes much of Windows' own UI...

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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It's a tool. Another creative outlet. I bought my kids ipads and apple pencils and they love them. My eldest, now at university bought a new iPad Pro recently and uses that exclusively as her work computer. What you're doing is enforcing a semi-luddite position on your own kids because you can only leave them unattended with old things. Just be a parent ffs.

>I bought my kids ipads and apple pencils and they love them Sure, but kids also love eating only sweets, watching cartoons and playing videogames all day, that doesn't mean it's always good for them. Don't physical pencils and paper work the same without the downsides for kids, like staring into a bright screen? And by kids I meant 3-12 year olds, not Teenagers and college age kids who need an ipad for study and pro…

My child is 4. They prefer fruit and vegetables over sweets. Milk or water over soft drinks. They come home from nursery and, in the warmer months, play outside with their friends until 7pm. They also draw and do "craft", and we do "science" together (make slime etc). They also have a base model iPad.

It's locked down using a combination of Apple's parental controls, controls on the router and NextDNS. The level of pedagogic software available on the platform is excellent, especially for preschool. There are also other 'games', like Crayola's Create and Play[0] app (available for Android too) which are fun, engaging, creative and educational.

Like it or not, this is the world they are going to grow up in. It's the parents job to teach them to be responsible with everything, from sweets to using technology. Kids aged 3-12 can get as much out of a device like an iPad as any teenager.

Just don't install Youtube/Youtube Kids...

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Correct. That's what parenting is for, not prohibition ludditism.

But parenting means also setting boundaries and not always indulging kids with the latest internet connected shiny toys. That's not ludditism IMHO.

> But parenting means also setting boundaries and not always indulging kids with the latest internet connected shiny toys.

You could just leave off the "...with the latest internet connected shiny toys."

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Mind sharing which one you have please? I’d like to drop one in my laptop bag sometimes.

Sure, I have an Innocn PU15-PRE. Just to reiterate that a 15.6” 4K is definitely the way to go. I also tried 14” 4K and 1440p panels but - on account of the way scaling and font rendering works in MacOS - they’re a big step down. Even moreso if you’re doing anything graphically intensive - you’ll want to use non-native scaling on a 14” 4K which is expensive for the GPU. The 15.6” panel doesn’t have this problem becau…

> I also tried 14” 4K and 1440p panels but - on account of the way scaling and font rendering works in MacOS - they’re a big step down

You can probably fix this with BetterDisplay (formerly known as BetterDummy?). I used it with my 3440x1440 monitor. https://github.com/waydabber/BetterDisplay

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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IDK if ASUS has been doing it longer than others. However I find that this is common practice now days for most companies. I exchanged some sony headphones the other week and the ones I got back literally had dirt smeared in them, like some construction worker or mechanic had them and returned them. I had some issues with a corsair power supply a couple years ago I had to do 5 returns before they finally sent me one…

> I had to do 5 returns before they finally sent me one in a box that was not already opened. Before this year, I've never had a defective electronic device (laptop, phone, monitor, camera, etc.) or encountered any issue that made me return a device. But a few months back, I had a similarly terrible experience with returns. I bought a new lenovo yoga, it came with a defective spacebar. Got a replacement, it came with…

Doesn’t surprise me at all. Dealing with any company that isn’t apple is a nightmare.

I had a razer laptop with display issues. I paid to ship it to California, and 2 months later they shipped me back a laptop with display issues.

And the tech was anything but fluent in English. He had a very rudimentary command of the language so I question whether he even understood the problem.

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