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Robinhood lays off 23% of staff

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Re: Robinhood lays off 23% of staff

#471

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Source on your first point? Sounds a conspiracy from r/superstonk

I think the OP meant buying partial stock? afaik those are not real trades; robinhood has to house the trades on their books to some extent

DTCC holds shares. Everything else is just on brokerage books.

Re: Robinhood lays off 23% of staff

#472

A lot of Robin Hood's growth in particular was driven by people gambling their stimulus money because they didn't need it to make ends meet, and by the Fed juicing the markets with low rates for far too long, and by the ridiculous meme stock phenomenon. It was a perfect storm of stupidity. Personally I'm glad that some sanity is returning to investing, and we are still a long way from getting back to normal.

The hardest part of this to me to deal with is that it’s the truth. For decades, the conservative line was if you give people money they’ll just blow it on gambling and booze. Turns out it’s true.

Many people need that money.

It's absurd Americans judging at normal people spending money, but same people ok with companies making record profit during pandemic, the minimum wage limit etc. It's pathetic.

Re: Robinhood lays off 23% of staff

#473

The truth is that a majority of tech companies don't need 50%+ of their employees. Google could lay off vast swathes tomorrow and be immensely more profitable without any loss in revenue. The 2010s will be remembered as the golden era for tech employment. The second we start getting industry wide layoffs, the insanely high wage inflation we've seen will kick into reverse much faster than you probably believe possible…

> Yet tech is such a small portion of the labor force that layoffs here basically mean zilch when it comes to the unemployment rate/inflation, and thus there's a long way for it to fall before the Fed adjusts policy

The really scary thing for me is the possible macro environment for tech.

Indians will soon overtake any of the Western countries as the largest English-speaking population on the internet. As I'm sure many of you know, Indians are hugely talented and most of us who had to deal with CS or Maths have probably resorted to some of the extremely generous Indian experts who teach these subjects on Youtube. There are some very good institutes and universities with solid reputations, many expanding to boot camps and such - so there is a very good volume of tech talent coming online fast.

So you have a tsunami of highly educated, English-speaking tech workers coming online AND a sudden surplus of laid off tech workers in the West. It could potentially get really ugly for the Western tech workers used to six figures for working 30 hours per day and then spending the rest of the day on activism or "day in the life of a X" Tiktoks. After all, we just tested remote work and you can live like a king in India for much less than even the cheapest Western town.

Re: Robinhood lays off 23% of staff

#474

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The hardest part of this to me to deal with is that it’s the truth. For decades, the conservative line was if you give people money they’ll just blow it on gambling and booze. Turns out it’s true.

Many people need that money. It's absurd Americans judging at normal people spending money, but same people ok with companies making record profit during pandemic, the minimum wage limit etc. It's pathetic.

No kidding, a few well off tech bros use the stimulus to gamble and suddenly every family who actually needed that money was a waste? Was the government just supposed to lower taxes for corporations and the rich yet again?!

Re: Robinhood lays off 23% of staff

#475

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people gambling their stimulus money because they didn't need it to make ends meet How did you quantify this statement?

In my industry the wave of stimulus definitely caused behavior changes, it was pretty distinct. Obviously, a lot of people did need that money to make ends meet. But it's also obvious that some % of the population was able to treat it as money they were able to play around and have some fun with.

People should be able to do that. Is it just the rich who are allowed to make profit that way. Nobody is judging rich here what they do with their money. May be because people in hn are privileged.

Re: Robinhood lays off 23% of staff

#476

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Something tells me infosec's not going to give me the okay on that one. In lieu of that, I think "sending a wave of money through the system by handing a check to every taxpayer will not temporarily change some peoples' behavior" is the hypothesis that would need some data to back it up, in my view.

If infosec won't give you the +1 on sharing, it's best you and they find some shared ground. I suspect app/othersec would actually agree here. Sending a wave of money into a group of historically underemployed seems like it'd result in normal expenditures, modulo some slush. Maybe it's the contemporaneous injection of many, many trabillions into 501c3s, individual funds, small businesses, and other groups who could s…

Your misconceptions about what I said somehow outnumber the things I actually said.

    Sending a wave of money into a group of 
    historically underemployed seems like 
    it'd result in normal expenditures, modulo 
    some slush.
Do you have hard data for that? (j/k)

Far more importantly, "sending a wave of money into a group of historically underemployed" is not what happened. Pretty much every taxpayer got a series of stimulus checks. It wasn't based on need; it was based on your claimed income for the previous year. Historically underemployed groups got checks, rich boys with time and money on their hands got checks. Everybody. (edit: not everybody, more like ~80%) Maybe this is the root of your misconceptions?

   Maybe it's the contemporaneous injection [...]
What? That wasn't even remotely part of this discussion. At least not anything I've written. If it helps, I agree with you: a lot of the payments to businesses amounted to lining the pockets of the already-rich.

   Edit: alternatively, feel free to abstain 
   from conversations where your allegiances 
   lie contrary to complete honesty
What? Literally the only thought I've expressed this entire time is yup, that wave of money given to consumers seems like it had an effect on consumer spending habits, and now that stimulus has worked its way through the system some of those habits will revert to their former states. Not the most controversial of opinions.

What is this missing honesty you're referring to? This is one of the weirder interactions I've ever had on HN. And that's really saying something.

Re: Robinhood lays off 23% of staff

#477

A lot of Robin Hood's growth in particular was driven by people gambling their stimulus money because they didn't need it to make ends meet, and by the Fed juicing the markets with low rates for far too long, and by the ridiculous meme stock phenomenon. It was a perfect storm of stupidity. Personally I'm glad that some sanity is returning to investing, and we are still a long way from getting back to normal.

The hardest part of this to me to deal with is that it’s the truth. For decades, the conservative line was if you give people money they’ll just blow it on gambling and booze. Turns out it’s true.

And so what if it is? With the rate that tech is going to be putting people out of jobs, most folks are going to have shit for options.

Let the privileged folks have their fun, so the unprivileged can eat and not worry so much.

Re: Robinhood lays off 23% of staff

#478

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This happened in 1998-1999 too. People got online trading accounts, did great and then decided to try to invest for a living. You should not take investment advice from people who have been doing it less than a decade. It takes time to sort out the lucky from the smart.

Heh I made 30% trading! Of course had I just let it ride in an index fund I’d’ve made 50+%…

Nah a lot of the tech and meme plays were up hundreds to thousands percent returns. Of course they were hit the hardest in the down turn, but the money making potential was pretty insane.

Re: Robinhood lays off 23% of staff

#479
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Biggest mark of utter management failure is making too small a layoff in April (9%) and needing to do another round today. Combined that’s a 30% headcount reduction since Q1-2022

Please say more. Is the idea to get the blood-letting over with all at once?

If you combine layoffs the reduction in burn can be pretty significant. The exact numbers vary per company but for a startup delaying layoffs by one month can be the difference between having one year of runway remaining or one month once all is said and done.

This is not the exact link I was looking for but goes into it somewhat https://www.ycombinator.com/library/3Z-advice-for-companies-...

Re: Robinhood lays off 23% of staff

#480

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The hardest part of this to me to deal with is that it’s the truth. For decades, the conservative line was if you give people money they’ll just blow it on gambling and booze. Turns out it’s true.

And so what if it is? With the rate that tech is going to be putting people out of jobs, most folks are going to have shit for options. Let the privileged folks have their fun, so the unprivileged can eat and not worry so much.

> And so what if it is?

Causes asset inflation making them out of reach for the 'unprivileged'. See housing market.

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