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Coinbase Announces 18% Layoffs

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Re: Coinbase Announces 18% Layoffs

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post #364

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> This assumes that the employee has been working for the company for more than 2 years. If it's less than that, they have no such protection and can be fired for any reason whatsoever. There are some protections, but yes, they are much more limited (in particular, anything that would generally be classified as automatic unfair dismissal is still protected, for instance for whistleblowing, joining a trade union, firi…

Yep definitely, but if it's just a case of the business isn't doing well and they need to cut headcount then they absolutely can do that without going through a redundancy process.

Yeah absolutely, agreed.

Although it may still be better to go through formal redundancy so you can make the redundancy on the basis of performance rather than just length of service.

Re: Coinbase Announces 18% Layoffs

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It's shocking to me that people keep fucking up these money printing machines (read: crypto exchanges).

Your incessant need for growth and share holder value completely rots your brain and you take a golden goose and burden it with so much overhead that it becomes unsustainable. Why?!

Just sit back and collect exchange fees, become rich beyond your imagination (see FTX).

Re: Coinbase Announces 18% Layoffs

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post #60

> If you are affected, you will receive this notification in your personal email, because we made the decision to cut access to Coinbase systems for affected employees. I realize that removal of access will feel sudden and unexpected, and this is not the experience I wanted for you. Given the number of employees who have access to sensitive customer information, it was unfortunately the only practical choice, to ensu…

This is the primary reason why Active Directory and Rippling exist.

Re: Coinbase Announces 18% Layoffs

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Still, he doesn't mention the ultimate reason for all this, which is that crypto is not sustainable and is a glorified vaporware that pretentiously tried to convince the world that it was a solution while, in reality, became simply a different problem. I don't think we are now in a better position than before crypto. I honestly think that we wouldn't miss it if it was gone. Sorry, I had to finally vomit my frustratio…

Is that really relevant to Coinbase's business though? They're a fee collector - they can do great as long as they're collecting more in fees than it costs them to run the business, and that's true regardless of the net societal value of cryptocurrencies.

Pretty relevant no? If more people realize it’s not sustainable and is a energy wasting scam, the less people trading leading to less fees.

Re: Coinbase Announces 18% Layoffs

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post #350

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Why is being a celebrity BS? After a few tens of millions (or maybe $100M) dollars money doesn't matter at all, it's all about status, and money is just a tool to achieve it.

Sure, for some people. But I was hoping the Sam Bankman-Fried had higher aspirations like building a product and team he could be proud of. I don't think celebrity status is good for you. It's very unnatural to be surrounded by yes men and people that just want to use for your money or status.

> was hoping the Sam Bankman-Fried had higher aspirations like building a product and team he could be proud of

This is Armstrong. It’s why he’s failing. Bankman-Fried recognises crypto for what it is. It’s not somewhere to do things to be proud of. It’s a place to make money while it lasts.

Re: Coinbase Announces 18% Layoffs

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> The main value proposition is to sell to the next person for more than you paid. I agree. But I genuinely believe "bagholders" will be better off compared to saving in their own national currency - provided they manage their risk correctly. This is because national currencies keep inflating, so even a decreasing demand might maintain the same price, given the supply inflation difference. Since the pandemic, BTC has…

>This is because national currencies keep inflating Now consider the (dominating) 2nd order effect that the price of the "bag" was inflated by leverage and speculation. Definitely worse than most national currencies outside of select countries.

Speculation is healthy in a market. For example, futures contracts let farmers hedge themselves against bad weather.

But I think leverage is insane with the volatility of the cryptocurrency market.

Re: Coinbase Announces 18% Layoffs

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> If you are affected, you will receive this notification in your personal email, because we made the decision to cut access to Coinbase systems for affected employees. I realize that removal of access will feel sudden and unexpected, and this is not the experience I wanted for you. Given the number of employees who have access to sensitive customer information, it was unfortunately the only practical choice, to ensu…

Never heard this happen (Scandinavia) other than in the cases where an employee clearly breached laws or company policy. Standard procedure here is that you as a salaried employee will be guaranteed 1-2-3 months (depending on your contract) of notice. Edit with example: https://www.arbeidstilsynet.no/en/working-conditions/dismiss... > An employee may usually remain in the post as long as negotiations or legal proceed…

A decent amount of states in the US have “at-will employment” laws, meaning you can be fired for any reason (excluding specific things to do with “protected classes” like race, etc.), at any time, with immediate effect and without any notice. Similarly, this means you can quit your job at any time, with immediate effect and without any notice. If you quit, it’s only if you want to maintain reputation or relationships that you should work a notice period, but given the asymmetry of employer-employee power, that ends up being pretty common. For at-will employment, I don’t think there needs to be any severance package or mandatory weeks of pay, but I think it’s offered in many cases.

Having said that, in finance (I used to work at a proprietary trading firm in an at-will state), it’s extremely common for firings to be immediate, e.g., arrive at work, boss calls you to office, get fired, badge taken and you’re walked out and your desk belongings are mailed to you later. More often, you’re walked to your desk to pick up your things instead of having them mailed out, but both happen. But even more often, people are “incentivized” through bad reviews and bad bonuses to quit in advance of a firing.

When I quit, they didn’t want me to leave, and I negotiated a couple weeks of notice to hand over my responsibilities and knowledge, and to maintain some relationships.

I had a non-compete in my original contract, so I would have to negotiate with the original firm as to whether they would enforce it. If so, I would receive gardening leave pay in order to delay my employment at a competing firm. That could be for as much as 2 years, and they would pay my base salary at the original firm in order for me to not start at the competition. This gardening leave is totally different than a severance package though.

Re: Coinbase Announces 18% Layoffs

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post #60

> If you are affected, you will receive this notification in your personal email, because we made the decision to cut access to Coinbase systems for affected employees. I realize that removal of access will feel sudden and unexpected, and this is not the experience I wanted for you. Given the number of employees who have access to sensitive customer information, it was unfortunately the only practical choice, to ensu…

Unfortunately it's common enough. It's harsh, it's cold, but ultimately for companies it's a real necessity. The explanation is blunt and correct - even a single malicious actor can enact HUGE devastating harm. It doesn't have to be hot wallet / cold storage. Source code, business plans, revenue & profit statements, SSH to servers, physical access to datacentre, client contact lists, etc etc... there's a myriad thing…

There's something weirdly unnerving about watching HR hurriedly pack other peoples desks without their knowledge moments after they're called into a meeting never to be seen again.

I'd far rather just come back after hours and remove my things supervised than have somebody else hastily throwing my stuff into a box.

Luckily it's never happened to me, but I've seen it happen a couple times.

Re: Coinbase Announces 18% Layoffs

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bc there’s not much current use beyond speculative trading on future utility

speculative trading on future price, not utility

also correct but not what I’m saying, thanks for the input

Re: Coinbase Announces 18% Layoffs

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post #286

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_fool_theory

This has held for over a century in the case of gold, since the USD kept readjusting its peg and eventually suspending convertibility. https://www.macrotrends.net/1333/historical-gold-prices-100-...

USD dropped the gold standard almost a century ago. How is your comment relevant to the greater fool theory and crypto today?
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