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Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by Macha »

sleepymoose wrote: post #432
Macha wrote: post #376

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I can understand why people use 60/70% keyboards. I personally couldn't give up the numpad, home/end/pgup/pgdown/arrow keys for it, but there's definitely something to be said for the comfort level of having the mouse less far off from the keyboard. I think once you're into anything less than 60%, either you literally just type text and use the mouse/touchpad items instead of keyboard shortcuts, or you're more focuse…

I've had my eye on a few 40% builds as of late, so I'll throw another option into your list here: portability. I'm looking for a keyboard that I can throw in my laptop bag that isn't miserable to type on. I had a Microsoft Designer Keyboard for a while but it's worse than my laptop keyboard, so I'm back to the drawing board, and this seems like where I'm landing.

Ah, I've got a 100% G915 and it fits in my backpack fine for a trip to the office or something.

Maybe if the bag was filled for plane travel that'd be a problem.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by corrral »

victorhooi wrote: post #267
arinlen wrote: post #53

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> Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. You can get a cheaper no-fuss mechanical keyboard from reputable brands with respectable components for far less than this logitech keyboard is being sold. From the top of my mind, Akko keyboards are quite nice, and most of their products sell for $50 less. You'd need to be completely, utterly clueless to go to Logitech for…

Whilst I get your point - you might want to tone down the rhetoric slightly... I'm a mechanical keyboard aficionado - I've gone through everything from Das, to Annes, to WhiteFoxes, to Keychrons. (Yes, I did solder some of those...lol). My current daily driver is a Keychron K6 - but even I am seriously considering this Logitech. The spec sheet promises a battery life of 10 months (no backlight) - the Keychron K6 is f…

> The spec sheet promises a battery life of 10 months (no backlight) - the Keychron K6 is fine - except that the battery life sucks, and it takes 3-4 seconds to wake up from sleep every time.

Turn off sleep. There's a key combo to do it (at least, there was on my model). It has such a small effect on battery life that I have no idea why they default to making it go to sleep like every two minutes of inactivity.

I do sometimes look at my mouse that's also bluetooth and runs on a single AA battery for months, and wonder WTF Keychron's doing wrong with power management. Oh well, at least it can work plugged-in, too. And it was cheap.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by irmis »

corrral wrote: post #467
sleepymoose wrote: post #427

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In that case, I would recommend looking into one of Keychron's low profile options. Firstly, they're about half the price of this Logitech board, depending on the size you choose to go with. Second, there's twice as many configurations to choose from (Full size, TKL, 75%, and 65%). Even further, they have higher quality and a greater variety in choice of switches, regardless if you choose Keychron's own or Gateron sw…

As someone who wanted: 1) Bluetooth 2) Multi-device support/switching (3 minimum) 3) Wired-use operation as a backup 4) Mechanical switches BUT ALSO: 5) Not to have to give a shit about my keyboard, or spend much time on it, and ideally not spend much money , either I settled on a Keychron and it's been really good for my purposes. It's a solid keyboard for someone who wants an entirely OK mechanical keyboard for non…

Have K3, besides accidental backlight change, no issues at all. Small comfortable, multidevice support (always connected to my pc via cable, simple switch to BT connection to work Macbook). Also not tried my self, but it looks like there is possible to reprogram backlight patterns with their software: https://www.keychron.com/pages/how-to-program-the-backlight-...

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by eloff »

corrral wrote: post #467
sleepymoose wrote: post #427

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In that case, I would recommend looking into one of Keychron's low profile options. Firstly, they're about half the price of this Logitech board, depending on the size you choose to go with. Second, there's twice as many configurations to choose from (Full size, TKL, 75%, and 65%). Even further, they have higher quality and a greater variety in choice of switches, regardless if you choose Keychron's own or Gateron sw…

As someone who wanted: 1) Bluetooth 2) Multi-device support/switching (3 minimum) 3) Wired-use operation as a backup 4) Mechanical switches BUT ALSO: 5) Not to have to give a shit about my keyboard, or spend much time on it, and ideally not spend much money , either I settled on a Keychron and it's been really good for my purposes. It's a solid keyboard for someone who wants an entirely OK mechanical keyboard for non…

I was looking at it today on Amazon. It looks interesting, but I'm not sure if it will work well with Linux. Anyone know?

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by 420official »

eloff wrote: post #474
corrral wrote: post #467

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As someone who wanted: 1) Bluetooth 2) Multi-device support/switching (3 minimum) 3) Wired-use operation as a backup 4) Mechanical switches BUT ALSO: 5) Not to have to give a shit about my keyboard, or spend much time on it, and ideally not spend much money , either I settled on a Keychron and it's been really good for my purposes. It's a solid keyboard for someone who wants an entirely OK mechanical keyboard for non…

I was looking at it today on Amazon. It looks interesting, but I'm not sure if it will work well with Linux. Anyone know?

I don't use mine with linux unfortunately but the existance of this: https://gist.github.com/andrebrait/961cefe730f4a2c41f57911e6... implies there's some pain in getting started with it.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by Gigachad »

thesh4d0w wrote: post #419
bastardoperator wrote: post #418

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Yeah, throw an entire overpriced keyboard away because a single switch died. It's great for the wallet and the environment.

I've spent a huge amount of my life typing on a keyboard, and I've never had a switch fail. Is this a legitimate concern?

It’s more common on mechanical keyboards than membrane. I have had mechanical switches start double clicking. Never had a membrane keyboard fail.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by stavros »

Macha wrote: post #376
dmix wrote: post #326

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What's the logic of using a tiny 40% keyboard like the guy uses in that blog post? Just adding effort to add additional keys using capslock.

I can understand why people use 60/70% keyboards. I personally couldn't give up the numpad, home/end/pgup/pgdown/arrow keys for it, but there's definitely something to be said for the comfort level of having the mouse less far off from the keyboard. I think once you're into anything less than 60%, either you literally just type text and use the mouse/touchpad items instead of keyboard shortcuts, or you're more focuse…

I made a split keyboard for me (I need to write up that post at some point), and I just made holding out the tilde convert the right half (yuihjknm,) to a numpad. It works great, since I don't use any other keys while using the numpad, and I get to save all that space and switches for something I rarely use.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by heretogetout »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #463
ubertaco wrote: post #16

This looks like a non-hotswappable board with proprietary switches, and it's still tied to Logitech's wireless dongles (which are notoriously bad about both causing and being super-sensitive to 2.4Ghz-spectrum interference). I mean, I _think_ the switches are proprietary -- the page has no real information about the switches at all, which is a bit like selling a computer by showing you a picture of the case and telli…

Why are hot-swappable switches so important? > I don't get who this product is for, other than maybe someone who has heard mechanical keyboards are cool but is daunted by doing any research into what mechanical keyboard options exist out there. I like mechanical keyboards but I just don't care. What research do I possibly need to do?

I'm not sure if you know this -- I certainly didn't until recently -- but the mechanical keyboard community uses the term "hot-swappable" to mean "user-swappable". They may well also be hot-swappable, as in changeable while powered on, but that's not the intention of the term.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by _ph_ »

iakov wrote: post #465
_ph_ wrote: post #158

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Sorry, can you be helpful and point me to a link which shows how to do this for any given keyboard? For example, you would have to replace the left shift key with 2 separate keys, how should that work?

I don't think you can do that on most boards. The switches and stabilizers are very different between layouts. I can't imagine how would that work outside of re-soldering some switches and reassembling the board, if the PCB allows.

I think the same, you would need a different positioning of the switches on most keyboards. But as the poster I answered to was claiming you could convert them, I was curious, what he was thinking of :)

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by Macha »

arinlen wrote: post #412
dividedbyzero wrote: post #287

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You realize ISO is physically different, like, there is one more physical key and enter is 2U high (not wide, high)? Unless the PCB was designed with that conversion in mind there's no way that's going to be possible.

> You realize ISO is physically different, like, (...) That is only relevant as far as picking keycap sets go. As I've pointed out, there are plenty of ANSI+ISO sets on the market. Beyond this point, the relevance is zero. It's a non-issue.

You've been provided answers of how this is not the case.

Observe this image of ANSI vs ISO layouts: https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2F...

Let's say I have an ANSI keybord, and I buy a set of ISO keycaps?

First of all, the enter and shift keys are not going to fit, so let's reuse the keycaps from the ANSI ones. Now we do put in all the keys and... my #/~ key is left over. There is no switch on the keyboard to mount the keycap to. ANSI keyboards do not have the same amount of keys.

Not to mention my \| is not in the right place - the ANSI shift key covers it's proper location, so guess I'm putting an undersized keycap on the top of enter. No amount of rebinding is going to let me have the left half of left shift do one thing and the right half do another.

These ANSI/ISO keycap packs you're thinking of are not indicating they will let you convert one keyboard to another. They just mean they include both shapes of enter keys, both sizes of left shift and \|, and a #~ key which doesn't exist for ANSI keyboards.

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