I took a job at Amazon, only to leave after 10 months

Post by ummonk » Thu, Jan 06, 2022, 1:37 AM UTC

georgemcbay wrote: post #299

majormajor wrote: post #250

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Now imagine if instead of coding exercises we had the interview process from other industries that weighs degree and past experience more heavily in the absence of any other sort of testing. What would it look like to break in then? Completing a BS in your spare time? EDIT: Most ideas I've seen about replacement for live coding - like take home projects or contract-to-hire - are not really any more friendly to people…

The craziest part of tech interviews for me is the way its just accepted that you do it this way regardless of how long someone has been in the industry. If companies were grilling people new to the career trying to figure out if they could FizzBuzz their way out of wet paper bag (I realize some can't) it would be one thing. Without a track record you don't have much to go on, but the fact that you can work in the in…

Post by jrockway » Thu, Jan 06, 2022, 1:46 AM UTC

mikesabbagh wrote: post #467

autokad wrote: post #278

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> "My biggest gripe is that Leetcode is systematically favoring candidates who have months of free time to memorize arbitrary logic puzzles. It makes me sad for the less privileged candidates who might be working a job while also trying to break into the IT field." I told google that this style of interviewing is discriminatory, especially towards people with families, or other commitments. Never got another call for…

why do you want to work for Amazon and Google when there are so many great companies that would appreciate you every day (and pay you more)

Post by sgerenser » Thu, Jan 06, 2022, 1:48 AM UTC

jrs235 wrote: post #343

prirun wrote: post #173

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I don't understand why people keep saying this. Every state except Montana in the US is "at will": the employer can fire you at any time with no reason. I suppose you could try to prove discrimination because of age or something else, but just like you can walk out and never come back, the employer can ask you to leave and you're done. Companies have no liability if you are fired other than a discrimination lawsuit.…

It's also about making it firing "for/with cause" so the employee can't make a successful unemployment claim. The more unemployment claims against a company, the higher unemployment insurance rates/amounts the company has to pay.

Post by rrradical » Thu, Jan 06, 2022, 1:52 AM UTC

georgemcbay wrote: post #299

majormajor wrote: post #250

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Now imagine if instead of coding exercises we had the interview process from other industries that weighs degree and past experience more heavily in the absence of any other sort of testing. What would it look like to break in then? Completing a BS in your spare time? EDIT: Most ideas I've seen about replacement for live coding - like take home projects or contract-to-hire - are not really any more friendly to people…

The craziest part of tech interviews for me is the way its just accepted that you do it this way regardless of how long someone has been in the industry. If companies were grilling people new to the career trying to figure out if they could FizzBuzz their way out of wet paper bag (I realize some can't) it would be one thing. Without a track record you don't have much to go on, but the fact that you can work in the in…

Post by rossjudson » Thu, Jan 06, 2022, 1:56 AM UTC

UncleMeat wrote: post #432

rland wrote: post #232

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I've worked on employment litigation in several industries (white and blue collar), they are everywhere. Defense usually wins if they have good documentation of putting employees on a PIP, even if the reason is obviously dubious*. Maybe I'm cynical because I've only seen it in a lawsuit context, but if you're put on a PIP, start applying. There's no out. * like, discrimination, company wants to fire long-term employe…

> There's no out. I'm a manager at Google and have therefore been privy to a bunch of PIPs. I know a bunch of people who have survived them and many of them have later gone on and had successful promos. I've seen exactly one case where everybody involved was resigned to the fact that the PIP would almost certainly fail and that is because the person being fired was a raging asshole. A manager who wrote a PIP designed…