Microsoft announces Windows 11 • Hacker News Board

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by rowanG077 » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 9:17 PM UTC

KozmoNau7 wrote: post #439

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Games should work fine on Mint. The only reason I can't recommend Linux for most people is that there is no usable office suite. And no the libre and open office really are not usable.

I've been exclusively using LibreOffice for ~10 years, and OpenOffice before that, and aside from just doing some things differently (not worse) compared to MS Office, it's been smooth sailing. And for most people Google Docs or... Office 365 are all they really need.

It's simply cannot touch Microsoft Office. And Microsoft Office is already a dumbster fire. And good luck if you want interoperability.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by BiteCode_dev » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 9:17 PM UTC

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I used android for 5 years without an account. You can side load, use fdroid or apkpure.

Why not create a throwaway account? When you setup the phone, just go through the process of setting up your fake Google account, and don't use it for anything aside from the Play Store for easily downloading and updating apps.

Because once you have that account, it links all apps data to it, and you give enough data about yourself to be indentified somewhere else even without the account.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by dolmen » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 9:20 PM UTC

"people will be able to discover Android apps in the Microsoft Store and download them through the Amazon Appstore"

3 big tech in one sentence from Microsoft.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by dolmen » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 9:23 PM UTC

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>"As far as I could tell, creating a user account just locally was not possible" I do it all the time. Do not plug network cable and do not connect to WiFi. Windows then proceeds to setting up local account

If you do accidentally connect to a network, before you realise this, there's no way to get it to forget. Rebooting doesn't work. The only solution I found was walking 30m away to the other side of the parking lot out of range of WiFi.

Disable WiFi in the BIOS.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by agentdrtran » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 9:30 PM UTC

Aerroon wrote: post #191

satysin wrote: post #94

So to summerize what they have announced (so far) - * A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? * A new start menu design * Windows have rounded corners * Some built in apps such as the Xbox app and Microsoft Store have been redesigned (Xbox Game Pass and xCloud built into the Xbox app) * New touch keyboard (SwiftKey?) with improved…

> * A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup I refuse. There better be easily accessible versions without this requirement.

Yes, it's probably called Windows 11 Pro

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by InitialLastName » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 9:30 PM UTC

wvenable wrote: post #173

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If they're iterating on this at all it's at a glacial pace. The settings and control panel workflow has been broken since Windows 8.

They are iterating; the Settings panel gets more settings on every release. The first version on Windows 10 was incredibly sparse. It's also fair to say that there is a novice/expert divide -- Microsoft wants the settings panel to be as simple as settings on a mobile phone. That's great. However, occasionally I need to revert and diagnose the Wifi driver on my cheap Chinese mini laptop and I need a more powerful UI t…

The problem isn't that settings are missing, the problem is that there are related settings in multiple, entirely disconnected locations that interact in subtle ways.

I have 4 UIs on my windows machine where I can set things related to inactivity/power down states. That's unreasonable, and nobody was confused in windows XP when those were all in one place (with an "advanced Settings" fold).

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by jandrese » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 9:32 PM UTC

satysin wrote: post #94

So to summerize what they have announced (so far) - * A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? * A new start menu design * Windows have rounded corners * Some built in apps such as the Xbox app and Microsoft Store have been redesigned (Xbox Game Pass and xCloud built into the Xbox app) * New touch keyboard (SwiftKey?) with improved…

CPU requirements are also significantly stiffened up. Intel Core i8 or newer or AMD Ryzen 2 or newer.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/min...

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by cuddlybacon » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 9:34 PM UTC

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With huge monitors becoming the norm, having important click targets aligned to corners makes little sense.

It doesn’t? Because I think it’s easier to throw the cursor at the absolute corner of the screen and click rather than have to carefully select a button somewhere along the X axis. Just a thought, I’m a macOS user myself.

Moving to the corner requires a swipe, pickup, and swipe. Moving the mouse to the bottom can be done in a single swipe.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by jandrese » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 9:35 PM UTC

ziml77 wrote: post #398

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On a recent (i.e. the last 2 or 3 major releases) Windows 10 install (any edition) you can create a local account during the post-install setup assistant by selecting to make an offline account and then selecting "limited experience" when it tries to convince you an online account is better. You can see this in steps 8 and 9 at https://www.windowscentral.com/how-set-windows-10-local-acco...

I just did an install of Windows 10 this morning and can confirm that the option is still there in 21H1.

It is available on Pro but not Home unless you disable all Internet access while doing the install.

On Windows 11 it seems like they are saying you won't be able to install Home without an active Internet connection.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by cuddlybacon » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 9:36 PM UTC

jerf wrote: post #140

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With huge monitors becoming the norm, having important click targets aligned to corners makes little sense.

Fitt's Law says that is exactly backwards. It is when your monitors are largest that you need the largest click targets. It's when things were 640x480 that small targets were easiest to hit.

But the corners are far away. Testing just now, it took two swipes to get my mouse where the start button would be. It took one to get to the dock.